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AND STAY QUIET

I'm not picking at nits, I wasn't criticizing. I like Oasis, 100% derivative... anyway, it's better if you sign your name.

But have you listened to "Jesus Of Suburbia"??? Am I wrong or does it subtly reference "All the Young Dudes" and "Ziggy Stardust" by Bowie, "Summer Of '69," the Sex Pistols, West Side Story, the Who's "Who's Next," the Beatles' "Help!" and Billy Joel???

yes :D

Iko, don't play the victim with your vomit-inducing and pretentious rhetoric: I'm not looking to establish a competition with you over "who can show off more," even if I don't think I'm showing off. I simply defended myself, and if this is interpreted as a manifestation of ego, there's nothing I can do about it. If you want to protect your thoughts, you need to know how to value them.

I don't give your review a rating out of respect; otherwise, it would be 1. In my opinion, people do not understand this album, they don't grasp the mood in which it was created, they don't recognize the deep bitterness of the lyrics... they only live in the memory of the R.E.M. of the '80s, but if that's the case, it would be better if they stopped listening to any album by Stipe and the gang since "Out Of Time". These are the R.E.M. of today, the R.E.M. that continue to make sincere and engaging records... those who criticize them do so intentionally and as a trend.

"Don't you dare" I certainly didn't write it in a fascist outburst (far from it, who do you think I am?), but simply because I found the way Iko attacked me extremely unpleasant... it seemed to me just simple jealousy towards me. For the rest, Southman already said it all, I don’t feel like adding anything else...

and fuck you, metalhead

Iko, the point is: if you want to know the backstory behind the making of "Transformer," go read some biographies on Lou Reed and you'll have all the information you want. But that's not the goal of the articles I write. Why should I indulge in that annoying pedantry that you often employ (only to mask your actual position), boring those who, while reading, probably haven't listened to the album? (Ps. Bowie’s voice is also present in "New York Telephone Conversation"). This is not a thesis on Lou Reed and the historical moment he was going through when he made this album, but rather a heartfelt tribute to the highest peaks of his art, which he reached (in my opinion) with this "Transformer," "Berlin," and "Rock'n'Roll Animal." My decision not to delve into the specifics of this record is sensible and coherent, and it is neither carelessness nor mediocrity: since you yourself admitted that reviewing "Transformer" requires "two big red balls," and I had them, keeping in mind that this is one of those undisputed and unmovable "classics” that cannot be discussed anymore. This, not Jeff Buckley and his college rock.
The only polemic vein in the review refers to certain "lapses in tone" of Reed’s later work, which nonetheless has partially maintained the cohesion between what he was before and what he is now. The definition "fringe" comes from the fact that up until this album, few knew who Lou Reed was outside of New York, and this is where the reconstruction of his myth began. Happy?

Iko, how dare you?? How do you allow yourself to come to me acting all superior and annoyed? Don’t let it happen again. My choice to review Lou Reed came for the following reasons: 1. it seemed like the right tribute to an iconic artist who appeared a bit snubbed on debaser 2. it’s an essential album and it was absurd that it was missing from the reviews (what, are we supposed to wait for you to think of it?) 3. it’s an album that I feel is “mine,” from an artist I consider “mine,” and this was just an honest and precise retrospective that I wanted to do. I don’t need to invent lofty arguments to be told that I’m good, which is what you do with your disgusting and pompous self-referential reviews. You would have turned a review of "Transformer" into a mess, an indigestible mush. I came to prevent this atrocity. And what does "Grace" have to do with it? I’ve already explained elsewhere that I wouldn’t change a word of that review, simply because I still consider it a UGLY album. I can say that; I have the tools to do so: I don’t need to go to Nepal as you say, envious because you’ve found someone who writes better than you and doesn’t need to showcase their (notable, I might add) musical competence and experience like you always do, as if the users of debaser were natives to be educated and colonized. Who do you think you are? Don’t ever do that again.