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Yes, Panzer, I meant exactly this. Steve Vai approaches the electric guitar in a very broad way; certainly his target is technical in nature, but he doesn't like to bombard his pieces with notes. You’ve precisely highlighted his techniques, and then the experimental side is absolutely predominant in him. In this aspect, I also see a lot of influence from Frank Zappa and Hendrix.

Okay, that's fine. So let me know what you think about Uli Roth, alright? Regarding the legato talk, I meant that the technique of alternate picking, famously promoted by Petrucci for example, often leads to the hyperbole of scales. Vai uses legato, which is a different technique that doesn't necessarily induce a cascade of notes, that's what I wanted to say. It's true, I'm really supporting Uli Roth; I've also written a review about him. I think he's an incredibly talented guitarist. If you want to download a nice video, I also recommend the Sky Overture; you can find it on the website www.ulijonroth.com in the archives section. Try to check it out and then let me know what you think! See you soon.

look at Steve Vai, he plays scales at the speed of light but only in certain episodes; if you play guitar, you should know that, otherwise you probably confuse legato with scales. This is technique, you either know it or you don't. Vai is not Petrucci, so to speak; he doesn’t have that target. That he uses alternate picking in certain contexts is obvious and expected; he can do that perfectly well too, but I repeat, it’s not his main goal.
Point two, I have already responded regarding the negative judgment; of course I accept it, in fact I think it's right to have a counterargument. You are the one who might have changed the ratings; I never asked you to. I reiterate, if you believe Fire Garden is worth a 1, you need to give it a 1 for the sake of consistency with yourself. I simply think that provocations, like Ege's, are not constructive negative comments, but just provocations; and honestly, I don't like those. I don’t see why we should discredit a guitarist like Vai (who may or may not be liked, but certainly deserves some respect) with jokes that reveal, however, a great lack of content to express.
Point three, credible guitarists; well, it was expected that you would ask this question, so obvious that I even anticipated it by asking you not to. Anyway, they are those who can have relevance to the context and the artist in question; otherwise, it always ends up degenerating the discussion, which by the way I regret, because it makes no sense. Here we should try to discuss without taking a condescending tone and without necessarily claiming to be right—it's the dialectic Marco was talking about, which however seems like a true utopia to me. Sorry for the delay in responding, but I wasn't here last night and I was working this morning! Have a good day everyone, and let’s try to get back to talking about music in a calmer tone, at least that!

and don't ask me the usual question about who the credible guitarists are, because I certainly don't mean Roy Montgomery and company.

I simply disagree with the fact that you make improbable comparisons between absolutely different musicians, and when you criticize Steve Vai, you're sharing partial and superficial truths, not to mention clichés like the one about 400,000 notes per minute. Moreover, you should know that Vai is not crazy about endless scales; rather, he plays more leverage games with the guitar and legato. But at this point, I wonder if you know the techniques of the aforementioned guitarist. It seems you're more oriented towards other genres and other guitarists. You give reason to Ege, who made a completely useless comment, because if you don't like Vai or the review, you are also free not to come here. If you come here, it's evident that you're going to talk about him and possibly about him in relation to credible guitarists.

Well, Jethro, you could have spent a few more words on Ritchie Blackmore, don’t you think? That said, the medieval project should be seen not as a decline in the man in black, but as a further evolution of his career. Perhaps, if he decided to make a clean break from hard rock, from Deep Purple and Rainbow, it’s because he feels he has already given everything he could in that context.

Here is Ege, yours is an example of a negative comment that is hardly constructive, I would say useless in its absurdity. If you don’t like it, you’re free to express that, but if there are people here, and it seems to me that there are quite a few, who do enjoy it, why should they give it up in favor of This Heat? People aren’t as brainless as you might think. If someone comes here, it’s because they clearly want to, just as they can freely go to see other artists. If you can't understand such a basic concept, then I’m sorry, but the fanatic is you! No one is compelled to comment on Fire Garden, nor to read this righteous review of mine; it’s not prescribed by the doctor. We are in a democracy, there is absolute freedom of choice. If you don’t like it, you can either not come here or express your dissent, but you cannot deny anyone the freedom to do what they want. That said, I open and close the parenthesis.

obbligato.
And I also like to have some constructive disagreement, which can be enjoyable, so keep expressing your opinion. If you think Fire Garden is worth 1, it's only right that you give it a 1, of course. For my part, I’ll continue to tell you that the 400,000 notes per minute don’t exist except in some moments, but that’s natural; that’s my role, ajeje. I rated the work a 5; perhaps I could have gone with a 4, but the reviewer’s rating is high.

ajeje you are not obliged to give me a 5 for the review or even a 5 for the album in question, given that not long ago you gave a 1 to this work by Vai. The guitarists you mention are very far from Steve and I prefer not to express judgments, honestly they don’t fall into my preferences and I would really be lacking in objectivity! Thanks to Vinsex and Mandrocker for their subsequent comments, Passion and Warfare was mentioned which certainly remains the bible of fusion and a masterpiece, I honestly wanted to give a very high score to Fire Garden because it is an album that does not try to retrace paths already taken, but looks far ahead and in doing so, in my opinion, it closes the circle very well. As for Vai's experimental side, I believe it is one of his greatest strengths, which has allowed the artist to stand out in a sea of clones, guitarists lacking a strong personality (of course always in the realm of highly virtuous guitar), but I know that not everyone appreciates this tendency of his to often think outside the box, but I love him precisely for this! Can you imagine a conformist Vai?

Ah ajeje the discourse about Vai as Zappa's student or disciple I confirm, it's true that he studied at Berkley, but it's also true that he was artistically discovered and launched by Zappa, with whom he collaborated from a very young age and who was in fact somewhat of his Pygmalion. The fact that Vai studied at Berkley does not change this reality.