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I've heard it enough... but actually I find it very classic... it's not like if you hear the drumming of hard rock bands he's very different, quite the opposite... and he also has a terrifying sound; that hi-hat could be played by a beginner... already MUCH better than Clive Burr.

I didn't really like it... widely overrated. If this is to be the new psychedelia... it sounds to me like a pop album that's just too basic, barely evocative, very, very pretentious... I've recently rediscovered their earlier works, which are definitely superior.

beautiful, simple and truly beautiful. Now I'm looking for

Nicko McBrain??! Are you kidding... oh my god, what a slacker! : ) ..anyway, it's true, it's always a production issue, not that I would ever admire Portnoy, mind you ; ) I like Vinnie Paul, wild and instinctive, but also a machine.. Cavalera is good too in my opinion.. David Silveira is another great one, but it's true that aside from his great taste live, he sucks.. what a pity. Ciaao

Well, thanks, if as a good fan you blast the DT records hundreds of times, you’ll recognize Portnoy too... I mean, he does cram eight hundred thousand breaks into every CD, but sometimes he must repeat himself, right? That said, we’re a long way from talking about style... no prejudice anyway; if I think DT sucks, it's primarily because I think they’re terrible musicians. It’s not the consequence, it’s the cause. Goodbye.

eheheh.. : )) come on, Robi, don’t play the fool now.. ; ) I’ve expressed quite a few reasons, I’ve talked about a poor use of dynamics, a lack of personality in the rhythms, a lack of style, an nonexistent sound; you’re the one who only wanted to focus on the tuning issue.. moreover, I never said I don’t like his way of tuning, but that he doesn’t have his own way of tuning, since he doesn’t have a minimally recognizable sound, which is a very different matter... giorgetto, regarding reasonableness, I repeat: I’ve expressed quite a few reasons, you seem to have very few. If you want to talk about it, let’s talk; otherwise, what are you rambling on about reasonableness for? : )

Oh, so you had the standard tuning on your drum kit? Did you play a note on the keyboard, like A, and then try to find it on the snare? Or very simply, did you just twist the tension rods until you found the sound you liked, not really caring (wisely) about the notes? It's not exactly a matter of frills, it seems to me. It's a rather basic question of how you make your instrument sound... whether you want it low, full, sharp, bright, booming, etc. It's strange if you've played the drums that you wouldn't know this...

Portnoy is essentially a self-taught drummer who then improved... if logic is not an opinion, if he was self-taught before and then went to the Boston school, it's as if he weren’t self-taught at all... and it shows far too much. Furthermore, he doesn't have a recognizable sound, no unique touch, he has an overly academic touch, whether self-taught or not. He lacks any sense of dynamics, he conceives forte and piano in an overly standard way, with very few, if any, nuances... he is devoid of sensitivity, he doesn’t produce a rhythm that is worth noting... with Portnoy you notice the feel, not the rhythms; there's no linear rhythm that expresses his style, like a Keith Moon, an Irons, a Vinnie Paul, a Chamberlain, etc. etc., he's anonymous, just hot air. And then what kind of sound does he have? John Bonham had a sound... if you listen to his drums, they are so deep, full of bass... Portnoy can't even manage to imprint a decent (i.e., personal) tuning on his drums... they must have told him that the snare is an A, and so on with the other drums, and he's trying his best to tune the drums following the notes... poor guy...

Do you have the slightest idea of what it means to have a sound on the drums? After three milliseconds, you can tell that Irons is playing, because no one plays the hi-hat like Irons does. It’s not just because there’s only Irons... you can say the same about a Vinnie Paul, damn, you can recognize him from a mile away, you can say the same about a Keith Moon; that fixed eighth-note kick pattern he played was uniquely his, nobody could imitate it. And that's what Portnoy lacks—no matter how good he is, he doesn't have style. Portnoy is great at executing some feel he picked up after hundreds of thousands of hours of practice, but poor thing, he’s limited; he just can't get there… or maybe he doesn't want to, which is worse.

ah well, Jack Irons probably doesn't even have the slightest idea of what a rim shot is, or a double stroke, or eighth note triplets.. he has never studied snare drum technique like Portnoy.. but Jack Irons, with his little technique, has a style, a SOUND, something that poor Portnoy hasn't managed to build for ten years at Boston school.. poor, poor Portnoy, getting class lessons from a neglected guy like Irons ;)