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And what would they have done with so much personnel? What is their merit? That of having merged metal and prog?? You can see what a merit that is... they just picked up the stylistic elements of both genres and put them in the same piece; and running an average of seven or eight minutes, it's not very difficult to include palm muting, a dozen tempo changes, and three or four solos all in one song... There's nothing truly personal... and even their intuition (if we want to call it that) is merely the result of years and years of experimentation in the '80s by the pioneering crossover bands (I mean in terms of attitude rather than genre), from which DT have directly taken the foundational ideas, turning them into the skeleton of a style that in fact doesn’t exist. Amid a vast amount of personal, interesting, and at times monumental material for modernity and expressiveness, like that given by the '90s, I am amazed that an attentive listener could give credence to such evident limitations as those expressed by DT.

I agree with you on everything ; )

Hi ajeje... you see, I think the issue is not that simple... Given that any group draws from what has already been (it's a purely cultural matter), let's say there exists a continuum that goes from: groups that take up themes in a school-like, useless way, without reinterpreting, without adding personality or modernity; that is to say, to find you a more concise way to express what I've said, this extreme of the continuum is: Dream Theater : D. Up to truly innovative groups, those that overturn everything, that revolutionize... like the Velvet Underground. Clearly, in the middle, being a continuum, there is a huge tide of middle grounds... so it's not an absolute thing, just one of many criteria...

As for the Bloc Party: how can you not feel how their style is geometric, non-instinctive, expressionist? It's obvious that they simplify everything because they know well (or their record label knows well) that if they didn't make the two-minute piece with the A-B-A-B-C-B structure (that is, the ULTRA-canonical one), they wouldn't be new rock, meaning they wouldn't be trending, meaning they wouldn't make the cover of NME... they can't (in a literal sense too, meaning they don't have the skills) replicate the deconstruction of bands like Feelies, Devo, Pere Ubu, but despite that, their matrix is PALPABLY New Wave.

The fact that they are simple doesn’t mean they can’t be “elegant”… they are elegant precisely because they are cultured and referential… (but enough with these fucking terms, we know what we mean!)… the fact that they are cultured and referential is undeniable, but 1) being referential is a limitation, not a virtue… since every quote needs to be reinterpreted (and at that point, it’s no longer a quote) otherwise it becomes mediocre. 2) it’s their cultured nature that is constructed, and also referential in itself, given that they seem to have come straight out of 1984. In fact, as I already mentioned a few weeks ago in another post, it’s not like they were the first to rediscover the '80s… the Interpol were already there, look how similar they are in style… so in the case of the FF, it all smells very much of fashion and very little of personality.

aaahh, finally, a new group... ahhhh finally a decent review about this new group...

Arianna, a bit of imagination! "working class," musically speaking, in the sense of being more punk, more rough-around-the-edges, more instinctive, wanted to be a metaphor ; ) ...as for the Floyd, you've answered yourself perfectly. Why do you think a piece like "echoes," just because it's 26 minutes long, isn't communicative? It has a seductive and enchanting melody, never loses sight of the empathetic effect, it's an INCREDIBLY communicative piece... which is not the case with Song to the Siren, which in its beauty is a much more intimate piece, performed in such a personal way and possesses an atmosphere so oblique that it is absolutely not as accessible. The FF (once again, you don't show that you know or want to read between the lines) are definitely "intellectualoids"... don't you see how they reference in a cultured way? Don't you see how their pop pretends to be meta-pop with its overly displayed irony? Don't you see their look? Don't you see their guitar embellishments, so shamelessly elegant? They are a pop group that wants to sound intellectual to legitimize themselves, which is nothing but an excuse to hide their enormous expressive limitations.

Same old story, Omeganex... respected musicians. So what? : D ...it's not the solution to everything (thankfully)! Let’s admit it, but it's the result that matters: and that is what is lacking (in my opinion) for the reasons already mentioned above.

I commented once and I'd have left it at that... but then someone gives a clueless response, and so... ; ) ...in any case, I don't think there's any prohibition against commenting on things you don't like, right? And come on, isn't it a bit boring to only have positive comments? A bit of healthy taste for controversy, for Jupiter!

Thieves! I bought it in Edinburgh for 5.90 pounds, which is 15,000 lire, or about eight euros!