easycure

I agree with you, considering them the best ever is quite bizarre (a very fitting term) .-D ..well, in fact I'm among those who consider them among the worst ever, that's true.. anyway, I also agree with you about Scaruffi: the beauty is that he creates a sort of critical "system" that really manages to engage an enormous number of groups. Like all systems it is imperfect, because many judgments are obviously too subjective, but he is indeed a worthy critic, there's no denying it, and he helps you discover a lot of valuable stuff. Bye!

But then you continue to be inattentive. Reread my post, come on, you’ll realize that the fact that Scaruffi speaks well of the DT was my premise; I never claimed the opposite. Yet considering that for many of those who write here the DT are among the best bands ever, Scaruffi definitely speaks in terms that do not exactly confirm that hypothesis. This was the reason for my citation some time ago, a citation that evidently needed a little context. Furthermore, look at the album ratings: 9 is a masterpiece, and the DT don't get even one, while there are 9 bands that many DT fans would be horrified to consider better than the DT :-) ... in short, Scaruffi should be considered in his entirety, and maybe the DT don't come out looking as good as you also claim. Anyway, the link you refer to is the 100 BEST in the history of rock. What I'm referring to is THE ABSOLUTE BEST in the history of rock. There are no more than 24-25, and the DT, who don’t have a single album rated as a masterpiece, don’t even come close. I repeat, open the music page, go to best of, and check all times.

tommy, I'm not very objective in what sense? Why are people capable of inventing all sorts of nonsense to try to protect their opinions? I don't know... :-D

Well, the fact that Scaruffi is "pro-American" seems a bit silly to me.. Robert Wyatt is English and gets the highest rating of all, plus either the second or third best album overall.. My Bloody Valentine, Irish, score an eight and a nine (so untechnical, and they surpass DT, imagine that :-D), Syd Barrett and the Floyd get nice scores, and one could go on. Let's delve deeper into the site, lux.

ahi ahi ahi "friend of Scaruffi", how inattentive we are :-) ..point number 1) In this case, I didn’t mention Scaruffi to "dismantle" the DT, but just to share a bit of rock history with my friend Tommy 90: among the best albums of all time, I’m sorry to contradict and disappoint you, the Dream Theater are not there. Also because, as you yourself point out, the highest rating they received is eight, like hundreds of other albums, and quite a few records that scored nine are even excluded from the best of all time. Clearly, you went to the wrong link. Yet it’s not difficult: open the music page and go to best of-->all times. Try again. Point number 2) I never denied that Scaruffi speaks well of the DT (although, my inattentive friend, apart from Images and Words, he doesn’t exactly dedicate enthusiastic reviews to them, and I also see a nice 5 rating, oh oh :-D), in any case, I had already posted a couple of gems that Scaruffi shares when talking about the DT, which, considering many of you think the DT are among the best bands ever, are nonetheless quite humiliating. So let me refresh your memory: from the review of Metropolis pt. 2---> "Labrie’s booming diction starts to weave the tale in Strange Déjà Vu, with a pathetic melodic interlude," or my favorite---> "The accentuated melodicism degenerates into nightclub songs like Through Her Eyes and One Last Time, languid and sentimental ballads that are somewhat unworthy for intellectuals of their level" ahahah :-D nice one, huh?

in what sense? I don't get it... anyway, go to this site, www.scaruffi.com, and check out all the "best rock albums." To start, that's fine... oh oh, damn, how come there’s not even one by Dream Theater?

I don't think the MBV simply exaggerated the sound of JAMC... they took it to different horizons, using those insights in a vastly more creative and modern way, completely changing its meaning, and in doing so transforming an entire era; for me, that's the difference: Spacemen 3 made a purely musical statement, while MBV, in addition to a musical discourse, constructed a path of expressive and thematic evolution that is much deeper and unique. Opinions, of course; nonetheless, you've piqued my curiosity, and I'm going to download something else by Spacemen 3 :-)

Ah, sorry, any advice?

Darn, I think 90 is really your birth year.. I think you still have some things to hear about, if you want I can give you some advice eheheh :-D

Before misunderstanding the dates: it’s not that My Bloody Valentine were earlier, but considering that both drew from JAMC, it seems to me that My Bloody Valentine were overwhelmingly more modern. Hi :-)