easycure

hahahahaha :-D how sad: don't you see how much of an idiot you are? It even burns you so much that you have to comment anonymously... which is the best proof of how humiliated you feel every time I respond to pathetic idiots like you who aren’t even capable of discussing "face to face"... you’re really sad, poor thing, the best thing you could do now is to be quiet, since you don’t even have the guts to come out. But I repeat, no problem, if you want to keep down this path I'm here waiting to smack you again, poor masochist heheheh :-D

word of mouth, as I've said dozens of times, I enjoy being here, and I understand that it may be convenient for you to believe otherwise, but I hold no grudges, it's just passion for what I talk about. You really have to be inept (or deceitful) not to notice that. And you're also hypocritical, you ramble about mediocrity and you don't even have the courage to authenticate yourself.. :-) poor little fool, next time think a little more before you write, otherwise you just end up looking like an idiot eheheh ;-)

I acknowledge his authority due to the enormous systematicity of his work, but precisely because he is authoritative in this sense, I cannot fail to recognize that like any system conceived by a living being, his has its flaws. One cannot be 100% objective, and as much as he tries to base his analysis on concepts and precepts that recur (and that can undoubtedly be considered valid), from time to time his judgments transgress and are the result of purely subjective tastes (as is obviously the case). This is what I see. Because it is the same for everyone. So why are the records he considers masterpieces perfectly influential, revolutionary, absolutely original, with meaning and significance in cultural terms for the era in which they were released? Why is all of this lacking in the profile of the DT? ..Which is obviously not the only case, but regardless of whether it was an error or not, such a consideration, aside from the ratings, should further prompt reflection on the analysis Scaruffi offers on the DT in a different way. The rating is not the only thing that matters. Aside from that, still citing Scaruffi, he gives a rating of 9 to the first Mercury Rev album. Yet I have heard equally authoritative critics refer to that same album as a minor work by the band in question, that is, a judgment that is almost radically opposed. It seems to me that there cannot be ONE absolute point of view to respect when it comes to art. Moreover, Scaruffi himself is an example of this, as he reevaluates a sacred monster like the Beatles very negatively. Haven't you read the profile on the Beatles?

Indeed, Lux has also noticed that your argument struggles when it comes to the average of albums. The My Bloody Valentine have an average of 8.5, far surpassing all those you mentioned, but they released only two albums. Furthermore, if you don't count the worst production by Genesis, then why should you count the entire production of the Ramones? They were a band that put out almost an album a year, so it's obvious that due to their setup, they can't maintain a high average. Regarding your last point, no, I don't think so. First of all, you are focusing solely on quantity, not on quality: if you read Scaruffi's reviews of DT, you will find almost exclusively formal analysis. There is a lack of meaning, a lack of significance, a lack of any form of contextualization. Scaruffi may be as authoritative as you want, but the fact is that his analysis of DT, in my opinion, is much more subjective than others (it's no secret, if you know him you should know, that he is decidedly rather attracted to suites, long tracks, and the like).

Yes, I think what you say is very accurate. Indeed, it is true that the predecessor to indie was hardcore, while new wave was the predecessor for shoegazer; regarding the specific cases you mentioned, I’ve always thought that the wall of sound in Husker Du was partly a matter of production and partly a necessity of being a trio. However, it is true that the wall of sound is generally a device of darker psychedelia that is heavily revisited by indie. Great pretazzo :-)

But I provocatively (and ironically) brought up the discussion of ONE ranking, that of "best rock albums of all times," period. I have never been interested in anything else nor did I intend to resort to Scaruffi's rankings to prove anything. Furthermore, I never referred to you as obtuse; I simply said, to summarize, that you were not relevant, so you had little reason to criticize my position (in that case). Additionally: I used the term "you" to refer to you fans or admirers of Dream Theater, a "category" in which you, by your own admission, fall (so nothing to be offended by). I used the expression "many of you" to refer not directly to you or anyone in particular but to those MANY who write here and who are not just fans or admirers of Dream Theater but fanatics who consider DT the pinnacle of what rock can aspire to. Finally, I didn’t recommend any album to you, and I never questioned your knowledge. Rather, I questioned your understanding of Scaruffi because you only mentioned the rankings, but there are also thousands of profiles and ratings of albums (of which I provided an example) that you seem not to have considered. To conclude, when I read the rating for I&M, I simply disagree. It's not that for me, expertise means "solid gold"; but I repeat, that rating was the premise for me, you are not pointing out anything new or shocking regarding my opinion. THIS is what I was trying to tell you.

In the end, I didn't really understand much of your definition of "expert"... but certainly, I would never define anyone as an expert just for how they analyze a single band. Rather, I define Scaruffi as an expert after having sifted through his site for 3 years for his system of analyzing the entire history of rock... but even here, if you had the foresight to analyze many of the albums to which Scaruffi gives the same ratings as DT, you would come away with a perspective that nonetheless puts them into context. Just think, for example, "Rocket to Russia" by the Ramones gets the same rating as "Images and Words"... :-D What do you think about this, do you consider it a misjudgment?

But exactly, how was it? "Scaruffi is an expert only when it suits him"... in fact, you didn't understand that if it suits anyone, it's you, and all the more I considered him precisely because, despite admiring the Dt, he reserves some definitions that definitely dismantle the "non plus ultra" aura that many of you would like to attach to them. THIS is what interested me, because from my point of view, having a critic who appreciates them but doesn't turn them into sacred cows is even worse than a simple demolition, at least compared to the fanaticism of which I have often had example discussing here. Understood now? A little relevance, please.

Dear Larrok, clearly you haven't followed the entire discussion. Having not done so, you should have had the foresight to refrain from intervening until you had a complete understanding of the WHY, WHERE, and WHEN I mentioned Scaruffi. All you're doing is wasting my time by making me repeat for the third or fourth time things that have already been stated, which I must bring up again since you've completely distorted my argument. So let's start: for the third time, I repeat, I am well aware that Scaruffi is fundamentally an admirer of the DT; this has ALWAYS been my premise, and indeed I cited him precisely for this reason, because despite his praise, he brings forth some very apt definitions (from my point of view) regarding the album in question. You are not surprising me at all with the various rankings you've presented... I already knew about Petrucci and I was already aware of the progressive album rankings (and by the way, 23rd place, when looked at closely, isn't all that great depending on the perspective). Furthermore, you have completely decontextualized the discussion about the rankings, which I brought up only marginally, and which I then pursued only to clarify to those who misunderstood that Dream Theater do NOT rank among the greatest albums of all time according to Scaruffi. I've never cared about rankings; it's you who got hung up on them, not me.

Through word of mouth: a cover band has nothing artistic about it, and I think you already knew this given your provocation; but you see, what distinguishes us mainly from the DT is that we don't even have the pretense of being artistic, unlike them. This fundamental point probably escaped you, so think about it a bit before coming up with such idiotic questions ;-)