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It has nothing to do with anything, but did you also get a private message from some lexus promoting, I think, his album? I listened to some of it on YouTube and I have to say it made me shit diarrhea for several days, but being too nice, I don’t have the courage to tell him. As for girls, I don’t know if the same thing happens to you, but for several years (let’s say since I was 8), they represent 90% of my thoughts. Maybe I’ll have to check into that clinic where Michael Douglas went.

Bartle, you clearly have a lot of stuff on the mule.
I also sometimes have trouble loading images when I have the mule on, like right now.
The connection seems to be moving at the speed of a snail on a dirt road.

Aeneas, I understand what you mean and I agree with you.

Prefacing that I know nothing of any past discussions between you, Alessio, I truly don’t recognize you in your last post. I consider you an intelligent person and I know for sure that often, when you've been accused of expressing yourself too strongly, it's because you're an instinctive and passionate person, but spontaneous, like me, if I may say so. Don't make the mistake that many have made in the past here on Debaser, which is after a discussion with someone, they started to respond with nonsensical arguments about inconsistency, that I'm cool, etc., which really are pointless, in addition to being childish. Don’t make the mistake of the various Sanjuro, Happyhippo, and Flinstone, from whom, I am sure, you distinguish yourself as infinitely superior. If I may give you advice, return to responding and presenting your reasons, even strongly, but don’t fall into the trap of degenerating and only spamming with nonsense like the aforementioned characters did.

That is, if someone tells me: the 80s are famous only for Wham and Spandau Ballet, I reply: look, that's not true because there were this, that, and the other. If, then, I have ended up in my analysis in a sort of crude rant, I apologize, that wasn't my intention.

Alessio, you’re preaching to the choir with me. However, this is something you should say to those who, in a rather simplistic manner, still continue to shout to the four winds that the '80s were only synthpop and commercial trash of that sort. I'm not just talking about the reviewer, although their analysis contributes to pushing this thesis. My intention wasn’t to simplify music, but rather to critique those who superficially claim that the '80s were only famous for Duran Duran, who, by the way, for me are worth a million times more than all the commercial nonsense of the subsequent decades in the music scene.

I'm talking about goth rock as it's known today, with all the stereotypes associated with the genre, such as dressing a certain way, playing a certain way, a specific type of lyrics with typical themes, and even a certain way of singing. In short, the stereotypical image as it has come down to us, the one that has persisted. Nico, as far as I know her, I couldn't imagine her dressing in black, wearing sunglasses on stage at night, and applying purple eyeshadow and lipstick.

For me, the peak of Shoegaze is Psychocandy (1985). Not surprisingly, Wikipedia states: "By the early '90s, the release of Loveless (the masterpiece by My Bloody Valentine) marks the beginning of the end for the movement." In short, by 1991, the movement was already long gone. As for darkwave and goth, I find them absolutely different. The former, it's true, was born in the late '70s (as I’ve already mentioned), but it is characteristically recognized as a musical movement of the early '80s (the most famous albums are from that period: In the Flat Field and subsequent records by Bauhaus, the Cure trilogy, Flowers of Romance, Juju, the first two by Sound, even the second by Joy Division). The gothic movement in rock began with the debut of Sisters of Mercy in 1985. From there, billions of groups emerged with gothic stereotypes in attitude, appearance, lyrics, and music, both in rock and metal. Dream Pop was born and established itself in the '80s. Death in June, who I think are awful, but historically are the forebears of apocalyptic folk, originated and established themselves in the '80s. Dead Can Dance, Black Tape for a Blue Girl, Chandeen, and all the more famous groups of a certain kind of ambient gothic music emerged in the '80s. In short, if we want to talk about Darkwave in a narrow sense, I repeat, even though the movement was born in the late '70s, it is peacefully classified by everyone in the '80s. All the more so if we speak in a broader sense, for those who include gothic rock, chamber music, dream pop, apocalyptic folk, the new wave trilogy by Killing Joke, shoegaze, even EBM. It's all '80s, there's no argument against it.

Darkwave was born at the end of the 70s, but it is a genre typically of the 80s (the peak was from 80 to 83). The Gothic movement in all its genres was born and developed in the 80s. Dream Pop and Shoegaze are the same. I will always be grateful to the 80s, no doubt about it.

Anyway Hypno, if I can give you a tip, get their best of 2003, which includes all their more electro tracks (the older ones remixed), with the exception of the only ballad "Consolation," which is also, in my opinion, their best.