Alexander77

Stoney, the guitars in "Becoming" are just two... a main line and the fills inserted afterwards (like that stunning one from "The Scorpions": back then people believed it, with the faces they had)!!!! Darrell had an exceptional groove, and he wrote a ton of wonderful things... The solo in "Cemetery Gates" is a gem... Icnarf, really, is Phil the only reason you love Pantera??? But aren't Burton B. from FF or Rob Flynn from Machine Head better? In my opinion, but I'd say this is quite objective (give me a pass), the Pantera are DARRELL and his guitar!

Man, I swear I’m having a lot of laughs... Yosis, sorry a couple of points: 1) "the Pantera [you who quote me "MTV stuff"] one of the most commercial bands around, and they sold more than the little MTV bands to whom you give 1-1": WHAT’S COMMERCIAL ABOUT PANTERA, YOSIF? In Italy they were only pushed by Video Music with the videos for "5 Minutes Alone" and "I'm Broken," just like MTV, before that nobody gave a damn about them! Then, thanks to the success of Far Beyond Driven (which in turn benefited from the word-of-mouth due to this album), they could no longer ignore them!!! WHAT’S COMMERCIAL ABOUT PANTERA??? Straight question!
2) "attacking classical music is clearly unthinkable": Excuse me, but what does this gem mean? Because this really sounds like the gem of gems! What does it mean? Maybe I misunderstood and I apologize! I suggest you listen to one of Alex Masi's albums... then tell me about classical music... I mean, do you really believe there isn't bad quality classical music??? And do you really think that classical music automatically means technical virtuosity?
3) Do you play guitar? I’m asking just to see if you have the slightest idea of what Darrell represents as a guitarist! In my opinion, you have no idea!
4) "genres that require more technical skills? that’s a good one, what do you say about jazz or some electronic avant-gardes?": again, are you sure you have a precise idea of what technical skills mean? Joe Diorio has amazing technique, but he doesn’t play at lightning speed, quite the opposite (a bit like Joe Pass or BB King)... then what do you mean by electronic avant-gardes? Where would the technique be? I ask you for informational purposes...

LUX, it's pointless, I'm tired of seeing my words twisted, and this shows your honesty. WHERE THE HELL DO YOU READ "SAME USE OF ELECTRONICS?" I WROTE THAT THE ONLY THING THEY HAVE IN COMMON IS THAT THEY USE ELECTRONICS (not the same use)! It's useless, we think differently; for me, he's a clever guy with great talent who has profited greatly from his image, and he lacks as a lyricist, and I've even explained why... and as you can see, some people think like me, see youth (and if you go to the review of TDS you'll find many others)... many find his lyrics childish and predictable... Thanks roby, now go back to playing with Barbie!!!!
@hymnes: we're saying the same thing (a melody has its own harmonic structure; once it strays, by playing certain notes out of tune, or modulating to another key, or creating dissonance...)

Sure it can be hymnen, never denied... I just asked LUx to point out a dissonance in TDS... no, Hymnen is not necessarily an overlap of sounds to create dissonance... even a very common melodic line...

Ahaha, but who commanded you to do anything? I've been asking you to respond to dozens of posts, you don’t answer, I brought you a post with a response and you give me another one, by the way a very trivial one, and you never reply... You keep insulting, losing your mind like a FANATIC, TWISTING MY WORDS AND PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH THAT I NEVER SAID... Ah, out of fairness I’m answering you again, then we'll see if you'll do the same: "in the end, they play electronic music": it’s nonsense, do you need an explanation? I'll give it to you anyway: it’s simply one of the most reductive things I've ever heard... how can you reduce what NIN do to electronic music? The only thing they have in common with DM is the USE (USE) of electronics, but even DM don’t make electronic music... Is I FEEL YOU electronic? How many times have DM changed their style? And besides this, HERE we’ve said that the comparison is NONSENSE! I replied to you, maybe you don’t like it but I answered, will you do the same? LET'S HEAR IT.

Who ever said that the fact that "the context in which TDS developed is known" is a flaw? WHO? LET'S SEE IF YOU ANSWER THIS! I ABSOLUTELY DID NOT SAY ANYTHING OF THE KIND! You enjoy twisting the words!

Are you stupid or what? I only said that everyone here knows the album and the context in which it developed, but what the hell are you saying? What would I have explained? ARE YOU AN IMBECILE OR NOT? I QUOTED POSTS AND POINTS WHERE I EXPLAIN WHY YOUR ARGUMENTS SEEM LIKE THOSE OF A TEENAGER...WHEN WILL YOU RESPOND?
I DIDN'T SET A DEADLINE; I'VE JUST BEEN WAITING FOR YOUR RESPONSES FOR DAYS. I EVEN ASKED YOU IF YOU COULD PLEASE RESPOND!!!
Sure, whatever, good night. But if you yourself say in a post that he played a lot on his drug addiction... THEN, DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND OR NOT? THERE ARE DOZENS OF QUESTIONS you haven't answered yet...

Now cling to the words, then you take offense if I call you an adolescent, come on... you don't know what else to say and keep not responding... the meaning is crystal clear, you know perfectly well... if you want to stir up trouble just let me know... I'll avoid seeking answers from you that never come...

I didn't say that you are, I said that approach seemed veeeery adolescent to me... sorry if you took it the wrong way...

I will reply when you reply to me, about everything, dissonance, where in TDS and all the other questions... Why don’t you ever answer? Intellectual approach? You? Established order? Well...
I’ve explained to you in various posts why your cultural approach sounds like the ramblings of an obsessed teenager... I’VE EXPLAINED IT A THOUSAND TIMES... if you don’t accept it, sorry... and as I’ve already said, everyone here knows the context of TDS, so get off your high horse...
I repeat, answer my questions and I will gladly answer yours!
I’ve answered you, maybe you don’t like the answer or it’s not exhaustive (post 81 point 2, so you can’t say I didn’t respond)... NOW YOU ANSWER ME ABOUT EVERYTHING, I JUST NEED THE ANSWERS FROM POST 81, then I will gladly explain to you why that "in the end they sound electronic" is, FOR ME, a LOAD OF CRAP! BUT ANSWER FOR ONCE... DO ME THIS FAVOR!