Eneathedevil

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Giacomo Puccini Madama Butterfly
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I correct myself right away, this time by me: "Non più andrai" is obviously from The Marriage of Figaro... this time it was sleep ;)
Squallor Arrapaho
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SHUT UP, PROFANE!!! and then what does it have to do with it... this is a comparative study, that is a non-comparative study ;)))
Giacomo Puccini Madama Butterfly
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3) I place more importance on the CD than you do; after all, opinions can vary. But let’s be clear: with your focus on the visual element, you might accept a work that performs better in the theater while being musically modest. That’s why I say that JUDGMENT needs to be more contextualized. 4) Regarding composers and their works, let me reiterate: Rossini is someone who takes "pauses." In fact, it doesn’t surprise me that you like Rossini based on what you've said: Rossini, like Donizetti, excels in theater but can become unsustainable when just listening. I agree with your overall thoughts about his music. Let me point out: Puccini wrote 11 operas, while Rossini wrote about seventy (if I’m not precise, correct me; we are there, anyway). Of Rossini's 70 operas, less than ten are well-known and performed, while for Puccini, if we exclude Edgar and only partially acknowledge Le Villi and La Rondine, there is a significant wastage; as I mentioned, it's a matter of commissions: Puccini was establishing himself personally, while Rossini had commissions requiring him to write operas every season. This allows Puccini to be listened to in its entirety with pleasure, more than a Rossini who “chiselled,” as I said, less: I would gladly listen to La Bohème on CD, while La Cenerentola a bit less. As for “Rinaldo,” that’s just a simple joke. 4) "Tosca" gives me a cordial dislike... Scarpia was definitely more likable, poor guy. 5) I’m dead tired; there will be typing errors in the message, but I’m annoyed to correct it. Cheers, see you tomorrow.
Giacomo Puccini Madama Butterfly
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Note, Hal, as if I had never referred to the fact that I wanted a fight this time, and in the end, I had only written four lines... you unleashed hell on me! ;) So, let me proceed point by point: 1) I apologize and I prostitute myself for the issue of Don, of which I've only seen excerpts including "Non più andrai farfallone amoroso" and the famous "statue" scene; I remembered the gloomy presence of a "father," I remembered it being the hypothetical figure of the protagonist's father; 2) I distinguish between theater culture and loggione culture, stating that while in the first case, people go to the theater for the theater, in the second case, one certainly does not go to the loggione for the loggione, which here at the Politeama is also awful in terms of comfort: generally, true lovers and connoisseurs go to the loggione, regardless of their economic class; these are distinct things, and in the first post I sent you, I simply stated that theater culture is the most widespread in its populist approach to opera, that's all;
Giacomo Puccini Madama Butterfly
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Sure, I'll wait for you, you will NEVER win.
Squallor Arrapaho
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Yes, I generally agree regarding the movie, and if you want, also about the songs; it’s just that obviously everyone has a sense of humor that resonates better with certain jokes than with others... I like the humor of the Squallor, full of varied vulgarity (see all the ways to call the “cippa”: puparuolo, bebè, capitone, bastone, etc.), and aside from a few more than 5-6 songs, that’s about it.
Giacomo Puccini Madama Butterfly
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Yes, redblue, pinkblue... the same ;)
Giacomo Puccini Madama Butterfly
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Rinaldo by Handel? That must be heavy stuff! Mozart is more of a fencer, but Don Giovanni is a bit different from the rest, because of that grim appearance of the Don’s father at the end of the opera. Rossini genius, but he was a composer who only showcased his talent under certain circumstances, unlike Puccini who, as a perfectionist, polished everything; too many harpsichord chords in the Barber... such a drag! But great "Largo al Factotum" and "Gioia e Pace sia con voi...";) Different types of commissions.
Giacomo Puccini Madama Butterfly
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The JUDGMENT should be weighed based on a single listen of the CD, while the INVOLVEMENT should be assessed based on listening and viewing in the theater.
Giacomo Puccini Madama Butterfly
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Yes, I admit I'm a selective listener, but what I maintain is that a poor representation can mislead. So first, the listening of the CD, then the rest.