giov

mr nobody... first of all, thank you and Socrates for the fact that finally on this site we are discussing serious matters in a serious way for once. Let’s set aside the unpleasant-nice discussion, okay, you’re right or we won't get anywhere: but for the rest it seems we really can’t understand each other and "meet in the middle." Maybe we are on two different planes and one just can't understand the other. I mean... I don’t understand this music; I’ve left my teenage years behind a while ago, I don’t like the bands that play this kind of rock at all and I think they ultimately don’t express much (for the very few times I tried to listen to them) and I don’t believe I will ever become a fan of a metal, hardcore band and so on. However, I don’t think it’s fair to say "okay guys, let's flush this music down the toilet because it’s crap from the start." Sure, it will definitely be crap (and I’m very convinced it is, in my personal opinion) but it exists and I don’t see why we should eliminate it even from discussions, even from reviews, even from this site, even with a simple one-liner comment. It seems to me that there’s an urge to censor something at all costs: it’s like saying "oh come on, let’s not use the word 'death' anymore because it’s scary." But then we all end up dying anyway, it seems to me. "And the pretentious kids who label me as having a 'closed mind' or 'lack of foundations' or poor brain capacity make me feel sorry." If you were referring to me, you’re mistaken because I wasn’t the first to use the word ‘closure.’ In fact, just the fact that one discusses these things means one can’t be 100% closed-minded. Have a good day to you too.

"I'm not 'closing myself off' to trying to understand why some young people find it appealing; I'm attempting to provide myself some answers, but aesthetically and ethically, certain ideas—and therefore certain music—should be opposed." This then, in my opinion, is truly absurd. I'll give one last example and then I promise "that's enough"... So: a Nazi of that conviction, with all his beliefs about race, accidentally stumbles upon deB for the first time. By chance, he finds himself reading a review of a guitarist he has always heard great things about but has, for various perhaps trivial reasons, never been able to listen to: Jimi Hendrix. Coincidentally, the review is something extraordinary, a true poem, perhaps one of Hal’s, one of those that speak more to the heart than the brain. What to do? Based on what you say, our friend should immediately turn off the computer because that artist would go against everything he has been his entire life. From my perspective, not only should he rush to buy the record, but he should also continue to explore Hendrix's music: that review could not only have updated his musical tastes but could also have changed his life and way of thinking forever. It’s not about “closing off” to understanding; at most, it’s about “opening up” and considering other things as well.

"It is not possible to separate, as the nice giov pretends to believe, music from everything else. You can't say, 'I don't agree with the themes, but I like death metal.'
Hi Socrates socrates... I disagree. I'm not pretending to believe it. This is how it is for me: At this point, excuse me for wanting to generalize, or rather, I think it’s fair to say 'to banalize a little bit but effectively,' that means 'since Marilyn Manson says all those nasty things against the Bible, God, the church, etc., I, who might be the most religious person in the world, have to be against his music even if I find it interesting from a sound perspective?' I mean, since artist X sings about genocides, despair, and the end of the world, do I have to be against it, or else maybe it's ethically wrong? Then what sense does this site make? What sense does it make not to create an exchange of advice and opinions and why not, ideas to look for new interesting things? What sense does it make if a metal reviewer reviews a good band that sings horrifying things, if then 'they couldn't recommend it to me because everything can't be detached maybe from my healthy and rational ideology?' Well... anyway
Tell me if I generally understood what you meant... and if I was able to respond to you as I see it...ciaxx
Ah, the fact that you always express your opinion doesn't mean that you have to end up being unlikable to people, on the contrary... those who speak their mind are generally respected and appreciated. Perhaps sometimes you might slightly misjudge the way you present yourself in posts... but this is just my opinion based on what I've read occasionally... and it should be taken as such ariciaoxxx."

he he...stinger...it's all about the feeling with the buyer...you've got to sell yourself well...I've got it in my blood...or rather in my last name ;D

not bad, I'm giving up too...you've gotten all worked up...do you see it? sigh!
...maybe next time, come on...

hahahaha but don’t take it personally... don’t you realize it’s worse?!? I mean, let me explain: I like a type of rock that is currently carried on by groups of kids who weigh just a bit more than the guitar they’re holding. Now, if someone tells me that Razorlight suck and that my tastes are horrible, I might even agree with them because I recognize that there’s nothing innovative about it. However, I still listen to their music and find it enjoyable because, at that time, those silly and "light" rock songs suit me just fine, even though I acknowledge that there’s nothing special in their rock. So, a little more "humility" from certain metal reviewers (I’m generalizing as an ignorant once again, I know, don’t take offense...) who are always so sure of themselves and their (often very questionable) musical tastes, and always so mad at a world that "doesn’t understand them," along with a bit of politeness and "kindness" in the comments from those who harshly criticize the reviewers (in fact, the two you mentioned are not the nicest ones around here), could lead to something more beautiful, that’s all.

You know what the biggest problem is for almost all fans of a certain type of rock music like metal, black metal, doom, etc. (oh, I’m not familiar with the precise nuances, forgive me...)? It’s that they often lack a healthy dose of irony; in fact, if they had even a tiny bit of self-irony, it would be a miracle. I mean, a bit of lightness... damn, I don't even dare to discuss the music in question (oh, I take this opportunity, which I haven't done before, to vote for the review that is well written and in an unassailable form) because I don’t know anything about it, but it doesn’t take much critical sense to say that the cover really sucks. The thing that makes me think badly sometimes is that I still haven’t found a metalhead on this site who says, “Ahaha, you’re absolutely right... the graphic design is ridiculously terrible like almost all death metal albums, but you should listen to the music because...” this is what engaging in dialogue looks like. Amen.

thank you, not bad...same to you and have a good weekend.

well, I wanted to say all these things up here, actually!

charles, it’s that I’m getting old and a bit forgetful perhaps... But how do you remember what I voted for a year ago? Sorry if I don’t even remember it myself?!? You’re obsessed! ;)