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rece so beautiful:D

Well done, PABLito! :D

Ah, one more thing... regarding the influence contrary to the media... I think the average Deb user feels obligated not to make an overly praised figure out of someone who has said a little something, but isn’t really that great... because then we end up with these popular national icons like Ligabue and Vasco Rossi who honestly get on my biiiiiiiiiiiiip... this is the ethics of the average debaserian :D

@ alessioiride yes, but in fact only fools don't change their minds... it's just that I've noticed this process, well defined by cptgaio, happens often in music... :D

bravobravo cptgaio! This is where I wanted to get with my previous comment!:D When something is unknown and interesting, we try to promote it; in doing so, we tend to exaggerate because often only this way can we give importance to things... then, when the artist becomes more "famous," we downsize them, but often we end up being inconsistent! Because at the moment when nobody knows the artist, we start saying oh my god, beautiful, amazing, and then caccacaccacacca?... Maybe it’s that I think and rethink before giving a judgment; otherwise, I just don’t say anything and I always ask myself these questions: did the album that came out give something? Did it take something away? Is it indifferent? In my opinion, Brondi has given a little something; nothing stratospheric, of course... but right now, I'm satisfied even with crumbs... Of course, the issue of "lapidary phrases" is valid; some are a bit too "sycophantic," others we are not sure we understood, but it must be said that at least they never give solutions. I prefer when someone tells a story rather than pass judgment, because providing answers is very difficult, and if you’re not a genius, it’s better to stay quiet (and I think Brondi knows this, which is why he only talks about the anxieties of the '00s, and that’s it; those who want to get lost in thoughts are welcome, otherwise, listen to something else)... Anyway, those who live will see... (I defend him now, but it’s not like I have too much faith in a future album…)

I’ve seen the old reviews and it’s strange how the public acclaim for Brondi has turned into the complete opposite… well, I would never have given it a 5 five months ago and not even now, but it is an interesting proposal (from 3 1/2-4) for the genre. Then, if there’s a sequel, one moves on to the blastatio… what mental process leads to denying past thoughts? Whatever... these are just my mental musings :D

I like it...even though to really judge I should listen to a second album, because as I see it, it could just duplicate itself endlessly...anyway, it might be that I now have a "second home in Testaccio," so I take in the lights of the Centrale and the gazometro. It must be professional deformation, but I appreciate this record. Yes, yes.

Ah anyway, kosay2 said it all with "Pop punk is something else"! :D

I don't think we should make too much of a fuss about "clean," "accepted"... at the beginning, I really don't believe that was the thought; there are those who introduced new elements into hardcore, and people liked it, a subgenre was created, end of story. ...the whole story of the anti-Reagan youth who, at 15, picks up instruments and, with just two chords, hyper-speed, and political/social slogans, creates the hardcore scene, etc... shows how hardcore had a certain historical context, but its characteristics were so raw (and I’m definitely not saying that in a negative way) that evolution could only ADD elements… otherwise, no one would be playing anything at all! :D That’s why some people added reggae, some metal, some ska, some pop… then over time, the original attitude started to fade, also because years went by and not all bands managed to contextualize the genre in the period they were in (which, at the beginning, the luckiest ones just found themselves in)... so in the '90s, we see some bands that, in my opinion, did well in melodic hardcore (then if someone doesn't like the genre, that’s another matter... it’s like me saying metal is a useless genre because it’s not on my wavelength... I believe that in everything there’s something that can be appreciated, even in things that seem farthest from us). But we also see people starting to make melodic hardcore more melodic than hardcore, and so we ended up with pop punk bands, starting with Green Day, who hit big on MTV thanks to Dookie. The damage came after these events because they multiplied groups WITHOUT ATTITUDE, WITHOUT PURPOSE that started playing pop punk in the mid-'90s and then all those who came in the 2000s. I don’t blame these people because everyone can do as they please, and if I want, I can turn off the stereo... the real problem concerns those who invested in them and gave them credit (even to the detriment of better bands/genres)... then, well, now emo is in vogue, and there’s a lot to say about that too... because if you look at the first "emo wave," it’s nothing but hardcore with less social/political lyrics and more focus on the individual (and at that time, bands even rejected this classification as emo), the second was heavily influenced by '90s indie rock, in some cases I think it’s even distanced from hardcore (and anyway, for me, some nice things did come out during this period), the third ALMOST DOES NOT EXIST! It’s a commercial farce where all the clowns in the scene have inserted themselves! From all this, it’s clear that when you reach the third phase of a genre, there’s usually a more or less happy decline of a style. The end (mathematical postulate of music :D)

mmm... I like Bad Religion both before and after :(!:D anyway, it's true that Epitaph, FAT, etc. have unleashed a bulimia of stuff that they could have saved themselves from... and they still haven't stopped -__-"