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Then I thank Zanna (the brevity of the review is intentional, given that we are dealing with minimal versions, impressions are very subjective, so I provided purely technical data to not spoil the listening experience too much), Lariana (you’ll see you won’t be disappointed), Ole (I explained above why I left the comments anonymous), Mien (thank you for capturing the spirit of the writing, I already corrected something on Wiki but I don’t have much time to check everything, one thing, the biographical details are absolutely those reported by the official paper biographies of Amos, authorized by the artist herself on the Rungren discussion you’re definitely ahead of me from what I understand ;-)), Geek (any criticism you have is greatly appreciated, the "Smell Like" discussion is a bit delicate to address on this wonderful site ;-) but if you have a question I’ll try to answer subjectively, of course), Kyklo (I agree with you, in fact my discussion concerns the '90s but it can also refer to other decades, even though it must be admitted that the '60s and '70s were fundamental for '90s productions), Emanuele (thank you!).

So I'll start with Azzo's question regarding Apple; I don't believe Fiona's was a true critique but rather a general discussion since she has never been too keen on talking about the subject (I remember that the trauma Apple experienced happened around the age of 11, and she spent a long time in psychotherapy for that reason, while Amos at 22 was at a more mature age, thus somewhat more protected. Older individuals tend to cope better—this is not to downplay the severity of adult rape compared to pedophilia, mind you. Both are heinous crimes; it's just that children are more defenseless). In fact, there are very few songs where this incident comes to light, and Tori's song is truly raw and direct. The misunderstandings probably arose from these two different cathartic views; it's just a hypothesis because we'll never know the truth definitively. If anyone has more information, it would be genuinely appreciated. One more thing, I have to tell dear Azzo: yes, certain things I wanted to say provocatively; a little spice never hurts, right? ;-)

Well, first of all, I apologize because in a lapse I got the name of Germano wrong, it’s Lisa, but I was close to Liz from Phair and I got distracted. Then, I thank everyone for the comments; I will respond to the questions asked a bit later (please be patient) because I'm in a hurry right now. Just one thing, I enabled anonymous comments on purpose because the gentleman in question has been following me for a while and I wanted to let him vent to see if he had something new to say to me, but I was a bit disappointed. (Anyway, if you have issues, send me a private message with your real nickname. I know you’re a user; I promise I won’t reveal it, and we can try to resolve any misunderstandings in a civil manner. Okay?). Hi everyone, see you later!

I’ve read both your comment and Ole’s, and I replied to you privately. If you don’t receive it, let me know. Bye!

Anyway, enough already, I didn't want to unleash all this uproar based on sacred personal tastes, but I seriously think that what I wanted to say hasn't been understood. Maybe I expressed myself poorly, but I still believe that your idealization of Cobain as a spirit detached from certain ephemeral things is not good for his memory or for you. I think that certain things speak a lot about ourselves and talking about them does good. That's why I don't understand comments like those from Ocean or Daytona, nor the latest from DonJunio who claims that my problem is that Grunge has overshadowed other genres. Well, I’m telling you for the fifth time: I didn’t say that. I said that, in my opinion, there was better music that received less media attention (less attention, not overshadowed—it's different), and for god's sake I brought you personal examples, I think it’s part of arguing, and you started insisting that even those were commercial... so what? I think my point in my first comment was different; it was about the fact that maybe my idea is based on the idea that when looking at music, it's hard to think of Grunge as a proper genre. When talking about Nirvana, it's hard not to think of the "Smells Like" video or that great example of post-Cobain management. I was trying to explain why, for those who don’t adore Nirvana, they might seem very tied to MTV, not out of ignorance or bad faith, but because certain things actually happened, and maybe many think that if we look at the substance (the songwriting... Alessio), these Nirvana haven’t said much, and it's just a matter of taste. Definitely, goodbye! (I won't reply anymore, seriously.)

@Alessio: not to be mean, but email 169 is the typical comment from someone who has a terribly limited and snobbish view of music (seriously) it seems that when you talk about pop music, you practice well but digress badly.

@Alessio: Oh my god, fucking hell, maybe, but why not just tell me right away instead of saying I have a distorted view of things based on supposed sociological perspectives? It's obvious that my question was looking for something else, come on, don't pretend you don't understand...

@Black: if you’re okay with it like this, I have no intention of changing your mind. Far from it, I’m not the first to accuse someone of ignorance or bad faith in these pages, and I don’t intend to do it either...

@Don: Actually, it’s you who’s trying to relaunch the discussion. I made some examples, I pointed out something, and you launched into tirades about who is more commercial or not. I repeat, I don’t care about that. I stated that Grunge was more of a cultural phenomenon than a musical one, and you told me that other genres have been the same. Those are things I already know. I wanted to understand why you think Grunge should be more musically important than Trip Hop, for instance, and you replied that Trip Hop was featured on Striscia.. maybe we just didn’t understand each other clearly...

That's all, I think that if DonJunio didn't want to discuss with me, he would have told me right away; the good thing is that now I know you don't want to share ideas with me, don't worry, it won't happen! Bye Beautiful!