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believe me, it’s spectacular... played much faster than the album. Crover is unmatched... lately I got one of their live DVDs which has an entire concert from the Egnog tour!!! Beautiful... well, I prefer that period (BULLHEAD, OZMA). But in terms of gossip, it’s said that Buzz is a fascist! Do you know anything? I’ll look into it so I can throw away their CDs (in case of a positive response)... of course, I’m joking!

Have you listened to the live album by Houdini? I think it's even better than Houdini!!! I mean they really rock... anyway, for me they are the best of the time... even though my love for Nirvana is absolute.

is it real? it’s even more beautiful!!!

For that period, I recommend the Melvins. In my opinion, their most successful album is Bullhead, but you could also start with their latest album (A Senile Animal), which is a bit more digestible. Then I suggest, if you want to explore the true origins of this music, the Wipers in their first three albums (Is It Real?, Youth of America, Over the Edge)... believe me, Green River starts from there like everything else. Then there's Dinosaur Jr, who are really something else. I suggest, if you're not familiar with them, to start with Bug. To understand the era, you might also want to revisit Damaged and My War by Black Flag. Oh, if you like Jesus Lizard, you should check out Scratch Acid as well, which is the first band of the singer and the bassist. From that period, there are also the first six albums by the Flaming Lips, which are absolutely not like their current stuff, where strangeness is their trademark. Tad might appeal to you as well, and during that time, Fugazi were also making a huge impact. If you cross the ocean, there are Motorpsycho, who started with Lobotomizer, which sounds like a Melvins album, and then moved towards indie and hard rock! I hope I suggested something you might like.

it's just that they're bootleg, hard to find (I'd say almost impossible and sometimes too expensive). anyway, that bitch courteny love instead of producing another crappy album with that idiot billy corgan could suck a bit of money from her husband and give us nevermind in its original version. that would be a nice thing!!! I mean, there are millions of people who have dreamed of that album for a lifetime (like me)

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I searched a bit on the internet... a couple (two pieces "Breed" and "Smells Like Teen Spirit") are on the box set and others like "Drain You", "Come As You Are", and "In Bloom" I found on a bootleg I bought in Camden Town (the only good thing about London). I'm sorry, peggiopunx... the sound is horrible, but the songs are amazing. With Vig, they definitely would have sold less, that's for sure, but it sounds incredible!!!

Anyway, peggiopunk, I listened to Nevermind with Vig's original mix instead of Wallace's, and you can't imagine how everything changes... I mean, they're really different tracks... much rawer, much more powerful. Anyway, despite everything, Nevermind has sold at least double, but who cares... the point is another. One thing is if you sell because you really have something to say that everyone wants to hear in that specific historical moment, and another thing is selling by winking at people.

Well... I'm sorry to inform you that I unfortunately listened to the whole always-the-same rebellious discography of Pearl Jam... the only one I find with a minimum of artistic depth is Vitalogy... the rest sucks... anyway, you're the one shifting the focus away from the music. I’ve never talked about the number of copies sold, and I’m careful not to, I leave that bullshit to others like you.
My dear, I treat you with a bit of arrogance, you should know that all music is made to bask in the sun... the problem isn't the number of copies or fame... the problem is the honesty with which one approaches making music, and that of Pearl Jam is zero. I mean, I don’t think Ament and Gossard care much about Pearl Jam... in fact, they were a path taken that then went well.
With your bullshit argument that you'd like to say, like Nirvana sold their ass and instead a group like Smashing Pumpkins or Alice in Chains are more honest since they sold less back then? Since you’re at it, why don’t you write a little letter to Santa Claus!!!
Let’s be clear: the group I absolutely prefer is Nirvana, and I calmly recognize that they were not who knows who... but if they did everything they did (and I think it's quite a lot... things any band couldn’t even dream of) they did it for the honesty with which they approached it! A rare commodity back then if you think about how before Nevermind the most popular group was a silly gay little band called Guns N' Roses!!!

that a benzian exists we couldn't care less. honestly, he could have done the cigolo and I wouldn't give a damn either way. anyway, the tad are monstrous... in fact, all the best producers of the time made an effort to produce their records.
anyway, it pisses me off when the term grunge encompasses the entire musical movement... why not include motorpsycho, who were making Lobotomizer back then, which isn’t far from the Melvins? Why not include Fugazi in the grunge scene, considering there are the Jesus Lizard?
grunge doesn't exist either by musical similarity or by the scene... many of your grunge champions hated each other precisely because of the dishonest musical discourse some of them practiced.
honestly, I don't give a shit that Ament and Gossard were playing when Kurt was popping zits at his grandma's house... to see how much they’re worth, just look at their careers... so zero.
since you’re all so knowledgeable, how come none of you fools mentioned the Wipers? Maybe it all comes from there, idiots, or maybe no other idiot told you that it all comes from there? I like Screaming Trees, but not that much, and that’s why I didn't mention them. The Smashing Pumpkins, on the other hand, I didn’t mention out of pity... they’re pieces of shit worse than Alice in Chains and Pearl Jam. Really the most commercially-minded of the bunch.