alessioIRIDE

more than artists, they were just social climbers... and even if the words sound similar, they don’t have the same meaning... in any case: there are those who are allergic to wheat and can’t eat bread. let’s say I’m allergic to the poetic trash of the pumpkins... an allergy noticeable in almost all the 90s groups from the underground towards zucchinis... this is certainly not a good reason, but they suck for me anyway.

better this way

but the beauty is an absolutely objective concept…sorry, I meant subjective!!!

I don't have a sense of beauty because I don't like the Smashing Pumpkins? In my opinion, you're a bit immature... not for anything, but beauty is an absolutely objective concept... in fact, there are those who take pleasure in fucking the dead or fat chicks... so I don't think the concept of "objectively" can be used for art... I share psychopompe's thoughts on Kyuss and would expand the circle to include bands like dEUS or Motorpsycho... I mean, extremely valid groups but not well-known and thus overshadowed by others. I think they suck and I don't see why I can't express this opinion... the reference to My Chemical Romance is due to the chorus of the new single resembling one of the young lads.

It's not true:
Out on tour with Smashing Pumpkins
Nature kids
I-- they don't have no function I don't understand a word they say
And I could really give a fuck
Stone Temple Pilots they're elegant bachelors
They're foxy to me, are they foxy to you?
I will agree they deserve absolutely nothin', nothin' more than me
Dreamin' dream dream dream dream...
...So Alive

Anyway, the moral I’m trying to convey isn’t about what you listen to (even though I think 90% of what you propose is crap) but about the person I imagine you are... emo here, emo there... but if tomorrow MTV tells you that it’s cool to cut your balls off and put black nail polish on your teeth, what will you do? I mean, come on, a bit of critical spirit... think a little with your own head. Then, if Fugazi do emo, then emo can be categorized with the name Fugazi... since no one sounds like Fugazi (I mean from a stylistic point of view)... for me, anyway, they do post-hardcore.

voiceface, I try to respond to you in the most moderate and peaceful way possible. When someone criticizes something, is it always because they don't know or understand it? No, hell no. Unfortunately, I have quite a few records from these gentlemen that I promised myself to sell on eBay (I have almost all originals except Machina). So I know them, and I know them well... as for understanding them... excuse us, but we're not facing the Divine Comedy here, and then... THERE'S NOTHING TO UNDERSTAND. My opinion has been shaped over years of listening... you like them and I absolutely do not. I find them absolutely disgusting and reprehensible. Is that stupid? Why is it stupid? Simply because I don't think like you? If you like them... no worries: I don’t think you’re stupid (for the record, they’re my girlfriend's favorite band), but try to respect other people's opinions. I think they suck, and you think they don't. I believe they have no significance in the history of rock because they hold no value... I mean, it’s pretty much the same thing I think about My Chemical Romance. That’s all.

Well, mike76... among the dreadful covers of Nirvana, there's a wide selection... let's just say it's a complete range... catering to all tastes (in the opposite sense, though). I don't intend to discuss it because it would be giving them publicity, and it's really not worth it.

@cptgaio: beautiful bullshit... Nirvana started with SUB POP. They paid for the recordings ($606) and the first thousand copies of the album ($1600)... really dishonest people... instead, the Smashing Pumpkins... those were honest... Gish, recorded under a Virgin branch... created problems for the band because it only sold 400,000 (only, huh) (the expectations from Geffen for Nevermind were 100,000 in the first year... like Sonic Youth's Goo)... which were nothing compared to the 10 million of Nevermind and Ten (another absurd piece of shit, Pearl Jam). An insane quarrel happened... indeed, Siamese Dream was recorded by Billy and Chamberlin only because the other two had gone to hell... GOOD! This is history... it's not me saying it happened this way but GOD... get informed before you talk.

@cptgaio: beautiful bullshit... Nirvana started with SUB POP. They paid for the recordings ($606) and the first thousand copies of the album ($1600)... really dishonest people... instead, the Smashing Pumpkins... those were honest... Gish, recorded under a Virgin branch... created problems for the band because it only sold 400,000 (only, huh) (the expectations from Geffen for Nevermind were 100,000 in the first year... like Sonic Youth's Goo)... which were nothing compared to the 10 million of Nevermind and Ten (another absurd piece of shit, Pearl Jam). An insane quarrel happened... indeed, Siamese Dream was recorded by Billy and Chamberlin only because the other two had gone to hell... GOOD! This is history... it's not me saying it happened this way but GOD... get informed before you talk.