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TELESPALLABOB, Berlusconi defines Mangano's behavior as "heroic" because during his imprisonment he "never invented any accusation" against him "despite his serious illness" etc... I've already mentioned this in the other comment. Instead, you didn't respond to these words: Di Pietro was still a magistrate when he said: "I will smash him." (referring to B.) Without straying from Di Pietro, this gentleman wanted Leoluca Orlando, who slandered Giovanni Falcone in an episode of Samarcanda, to be at the head of RAI oversight, but above all the Carabinieri marshal Antonino Lombardo, who was accused of mafia connections. Antonino Lombardo, who a few days earlier had persuaded Gaetano Badalamenti to come to Italy to testify in the Andreotti trial. A few days later, Lombardo committed suicide. Bye, I'm going out, but I'll read the response later. PS. I am well-informed about the various mafias; I think exactly like you, in fact, I would probably be much more radical in fighting them.

LARROK why a bar sports? Perhaps the Tortora case never happened? Is it an invention? Is it an invention that the magistrate who condemned him had a career? There would be many other examples, but I don't feel like debating.

TELESPALLABOB, I have nothing against intellectuals, I have something against intellectuals who sell hot air.

TELESPALLABOB, I agree with the first part; if in Naples the garbage reaches the third floor, I'm not saying that Neapolitans are terrible, but that those who governed them have failed, starting with the Piedmontese and even before. The same goes for Sicilians, who retain 100% of the taxes but can't pull themselves out of the mess. Where I live, almost everything works well; if you empty a bag on the banks of a river, a driver will immediately stop to check what you're doing. Here there is more civic awareness, and the reason can only be historical.

On the second part, I think differently; I'm not a fan of B. and I also believe he has done and said many foolish things, one of which was when he said that Western civilization was superior to others. (What nonsense) Write: Who called a mobster a hero? ... I think you are referring to Mangano; he said that because Mangano never accused him even at the point of death, despite promises from judges for leniency regarding his detention status. (more or less that's how it is)

So viewed from this perspective, the phrase has a different meaning. Also write: Who defined the judiciary as "a metastasis of democracy"? ... Clearly, he was referring to the Italian one, which is certainly not an example of virtue. It's the judiciary of the Tortora case; it's the judiciary where judges who make mistakes never pay; it's the judiciary that wants to interfere in politics. Di Pietro was still a magistrate when he said: I will dismantle that one. (referring to B.) Without straying from Di Pietro, this gentleman wanted Leoluca Orlando, a slanderer of Giovanni Falcone in an episode of Samarcanda, to head RAI's supervision, but especially of Carabinieri Marshal Antonino Lombardo, accused of mafia connections. Antonino Lombardo, who just days before had convinced Gaetano Badalamenti to come to Italy to testify in the Andreotti trial. A few days later, Lombardo committed suicide. I could also say a lot about Violante, for example, but I don't feel like it; after all, I don't want to convince anyone of anything. Because I know well that I wouldn't succeed; we are still in the time of the Guelfs and Ghibellines.

I liked you.

TELESPALLABOB, do you really think that the Italian problem is the Italians themselves? (that seems like a big nonsense to me) Then tell me at least some of the immoral behaviors you are referring to. Saying that even the stones know it is a simplification... what does it mean "Italians" there is room for reflection, I agree, tell me what your idea is. Write: That moon is us, people who populate a nation that has all those behaviors I mentioned above... help me understand because apparently I haven't got it. Who the hell is Angelo del Boca? What you wrote seems to me a series of clichés (perhaps for effect) that do not convince me. Are you an intellectual? France, no problem. Explain better: If you think about it, the Italian left, except for a few great personalities we all know, (who, let’s name them) is the only political force that has caused damage without having governed. Then… didn’t Berluska go to jail at the end of the '80s... can you explain why? I know, it’s tough, because his unfortunate flight has lasted 15 years. Read 28 and 30, they are not just intellectual chatter, perhaps even a bit naïve, but that’s what I have perceived over the last 20 years.

And who is this Bob anyway? Sorry, but there’s been a misunderstanding; if you explain to me how to withdraw the "ugly" comment, I’ll do it right away. Can I fix it by clicking on the nice comment?

Thank you, I gladly accept, but I prefer plain mineral water. I don't drink alcohol.

Franci and MR. MOUSTACHE, just to be clear, who are you referring to?

For those who haven't understood, the comment above was placed to alleviate the tension that has arisen.