Patti Smith Twelve
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missing the ending ... I was saying ... predictable and a bit dull. Bye
Patti Smith Twelve
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What a discussion.... well, I'll leave my two cents, for what it's worth, premising that I haven't read all the comments thoroughly, just quickly, I'm sorry. I would distinguish facts from opinions while fully safeguarding the complete legitimacy of the latter. That this album might not please (like it does not for Punny and others) for any reason is something I don't intend to discuss, and similarly, I don't intend to argue that it might be liked. For me, for example, in the musical landscape of 2007, it doesn’t stick out. It may not be a masterpiece - in fact, it is not - but it is a well-made, honest album (for me), which I would rate three and a half stars if there were decimals. But to clarify this, if the reference parameter becomes the musical history of Patti Smith or worse, the history of rock, it is clear that the evaluation might be different (this is to say that every evaluation should be based on reference parameters and that abstract evaluations are often fleeting illusions, in my opinion). However, in this area, I don't believe there are absolute wrongs or clear rights.
On the factual side, though, more can be said. The review claims that this album was born as a marketing choice following a creative crisis. This is not a fact but an opinion, albeit a somewhat weaker one. A fact is that in the liner notes, Patti Smith lets us know that she had this project in the drawer since 1978 and that she changed the album's tracklist countless times. Whether it's true or not, I don't know; everyone can freely decide what to think, in other words, they can form their own opinion, which, however, should take into account the existence of this statement, even just to refute it. Conversely, I believe that what Patti Smith stated is true for two reasons. The first is linked to the well-known straightforwardness of the character; the second is that Patti Smith has approached covers in her career before (Gloria, Hey Joe, for example). Perhaps this time she has only rationalized/systematized in a more organic way something she had already dedicated herself to. It doesn’t have to mean, therefore, that it is necessarily a rabbit that comes out of a hat to surprise the audience, studied by specialized consultants. In short, there are reasons not to think poorly, but this does not rule out that one can still be skeptical; however, I believe these points should be mentioned, even just to deny them, which does not happen on this page.
Regarding the covers in themselves: the review measures their value in relation to the original, I share the method, but not the resulting evaluations, while still respecting them. The covers deviate from the original, and Patti Smith appropriates these pieces, often altering their spirit. Therefore, if we want to, she betrays the songs. Just think of the Nirvana tracks completely stripped (and that was not easy) of the anger that characterized the original piece. It may not be liked, legitimate, I repeat, but one must recognize the existence of a total reinterpretation of the songs' spirit as absorbed by the current mood of the interpreter. For me, this is an appreciable fact, since a slavish interpretation (the mere remake) is an operation I find devoid of any meaning (at least in this context). Furthermore, noting that the reference to Grinderman seemed entirely out of place, even just as an example, the tracks - it’s true - lack aggression, but it doesn't mean they necessarily had to have it, especially since they probably reflect, as I said, the interpreter's state of mind. That they may not be liked (repetita iuvant!) is a different matter altogether. Finally, I personally find the arrangements well done, unobtrusive, and simple. They leave space for Patti Smith's voice without losing themselves in any way and prolonging the tracks, which would only unnecessarily stretch the broth, losing essence and simplicity. The review - aside from a style that (alas) I truly cannot appreciate - I find predict
Patti Smith Twelve
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Thank you, bardowski; I hadn't read your comment, which I share, and I only discover it now thanks to the notifications of new comments. @dissipatio, what can I say... let’s just say I have a different way of thinking than yours, and honestly, that comforts me quite a bit. As for the rest, learning the reasons behind a supposed vacuity of the record could have been interesting, but for now, I only acknowledge your comment, which is already something. @bjork, I don't believe that our account is a fake or a punny friend (I'll read what they wrote later); there are many users here, and opinions like that were predictable; they have arrived. Bye :))
Johnny Cash Unchained
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Non hai fornito un testo da tradurre. Per favore, inviami il testo in italiano e sarò felice di aiutarti con la traduzione.
Matt Elliott Failing Songs
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ah the link ... www.myspace.com/mattelliotandthethi rdeye
Matt Elliott Failing Songs
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I would like to point out that on my space it is possible to listen to and download the new version of "Our Weight In Oil" featured in this splendid album. The new title is "La Mort De La France" written by Matt Elliott "after the election of Nicholas Sarkozy as president of France in May 2007" Hello
Encre Flux
Encre Flux
19 jun 07
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I'm listening from the site indicated by kataklisma, I like the circular idea of the proposed track, obsessively true, although not exasperating, and also the use of electronic "offal" mixed with other instruments. Moreover, jumping from link to link, it seems to me that there is a connection with Thee, Stranded Horse, about which I had read something that had piqued my curiosity some time ago. In short, all very interesting and from what I'm hearing, the review seems spot on trell. Bye
Mario Monicelli Amici Miei
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If in the first two episodes the game of juxtaposing comedy/drama works well as two sides of the same coin, in the third - unfortunately - the story slips into the pathetic. This doesn’t take away from the fond memories I have of these films, which I've truly watched dozens of times. There are a thousand scenes I remember, but perhaps the one that still strikes me the most today is that of the cruelty of Perozzi's son in his theme, awarded by Tognazzi with a 10+ and a grotesque cry.
Herbie Hancock Empyrean Isles
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Well, regarding the news, I’d like to share an interesting note with you, Charley. A double live album by Pieranunzi Johnson Baron (Camjazz - 2007) was released a few weeks ago. I listened to it a bit over the weekend, and it seemed like a really great record. If you get a chance... bye!