Green

Underrated album, a very sophisticated and atmospheric pop with excellent work by Banks!

The judgment is probably clouded by the fact that it was made by a band that was no longer what it used to be; if it had been recorded by another group, it might have received a different reception!

Always found it interesting, a new beginning then aborted due to a lack of courage from Rutherford and Banks, who were still thinking about the mega concerts in the USA and little about the practical substance. Beautiful voice Wilson, beautiful songs almost all of them. At the time, it sold a lot but not too much, and this month marked the end for the band.

"the honest craftsmen and nothing more"

I bought it at the exit, it's actually a good album but I've listened to it very little.

Look... A lot of people in here know how much I love Genesis. I'll also tell you that this often mistreated little disc is more dignified than many want to admit, and certainly more dignified than an Invilaizozz Butt or a good part of the homonymous album from 1983 (eh? Who said "Illegal Alien"? Not me! Not me!) I have no problem admitting it; it has some very pleasant moments. However, comparing it to R.E.M., and putting them in the 90s pop scene alongside Madonna, calling them honest craftsmen and judging them as absolutely inferior to this Genesis album means clearly having very confused ideas. Very.

The Rem, a boring and overrated group. Aside from two or three pleasant ballads, the rest is the same old chant, a precursor to the mediocrity that would break through in the millennium with three chords and upbeat choruses! If these are the champions of music, then I understand why the latest Genesis album doesn’t appeal! And the singer, whose father was an American aviator, certainly cannot evoke my sympathy... quite the opposite!!!

You see. I was right. But patience, huh. Bye.

Anyway, I didn't put Calling all Station above the Rem, but not even a product to mock! The instrumental openings and melodies are worth at least as much as the monochrome Rem-like ballads, then again, music is a matter of taste and personal experiences. And the Rem do not connect to any event in my life...nothing...they are the emptiness of the vast and desolate American plains...nothing more!

Well, the joke about the Rem is one of the best of 2017. On the album, I’m absolutely good with 2 balls, that’s what it deserves and for what it provokes. For me, Genesis is life, musically speaking, but here the broth was so long that it seemed like water.

Indeed, I don't consider it a product to be mocked, as I've already explained. Much more deserving of derision are Collins's solo works from those same years; that's the pop that should be compared to things like Madonna and various garbage that could be found in the '90s mainstream pop (but I fear that's still a period you're not very familiar with, just a hunch). It's not a matter of tastes; if R.E.M. is outside your preferences, that's perfectly fine, but it's obvious that because of that, you know them little and have characterized them quite poorly. So it would simply be better not to talk about them instead of making wrong associations or writing hilarious messages like your previous one with the usual clichés about three chords and harmony vocals (which come from people like the Byrds, for example, the last real nonsense, not to mention the millennium; R.E.M. were among the most deserving offspring of certain '60s music) because that's what it is: wrong associations, a poor framing of a band. That's all. Just because they don’t connect to any facts of your life doesn’t mean you have to say objectively inaccurate things, okay, you don’t like them. I repeat, if it were just a question of tastes, there would be no problem, but the context is just wrong. If you had gone to a page about R.E.M. and written "I don't know, they annoy me," no one would have had anything particular to object to since, in the end, those are tastes. This comes from someone who really likes R.E.M. but who has placed Genesis on the podium of life bands for almost 10 years now, ever since I started seriously listening to music, largely thanks to them. Just to clarify, it’s not and will never be a Genesis vs. R.E.M. issue; that would be ridiculous.

I agree with much of what you posted, I just don’t understand the reference to the Byrds, whether it’s meant positively or negatively, since I consider them one of the finest products of the West Coast, but now we’re going off topic! However, rethink a bit about the work in question, listen to it again and then write back. Enjoy!

I mean to say that the Byrds were among the biggest influences on the Georgia band that brought back some aspects of their music in the '80s. And excuse me, but regarding "Calling All Stations," I really don't think anyone can tell me to "reconsider" or "listen to it again and write anew," considering we're talking about the band I've listened to the most in my entire life. Have a little patience, huh? And keep in mind that on DeBaser, people usually know what they're talking about.

You even chose the title of an R.E.M. album as your nickname!

it's not my fault that my name is Green

I read a controversy some time ago between you and someone who hates Peter Gabriel in a discussion opened by a woman from Rome who went to a concert of his. In this brawl, it was specified that DeBaser had lost many users and especially reviewers of a certain level who fled to foreign sites?!? Do you think there is some truth to that?
ps. I withdraw my accusation against R.E.M. and place them among great representatives of the underground... and I’ll stop there!

I don't remember the discussion at all, and I have no idea; there have always been old users who disappear for a while and then come back, but I think that's just how it is. Just like so many new users who sign up every day. As for level reviewers who "run away," I wouldn't know; there are still level reviewers who write regularly, after all.

On the Rem, the point wasn't whether to appreciate them or not; that's a matter of taste. It's the way they're associated with certain characters that sends chills down your spine.

About your nickname, well, it was obviously a joke, it makes me smile that you are using a nickname that actually refers to them.

Madcat, I wasn't referring to you in the discussion but to hijjihji, that forum user. When he reads it, he will respond if he believes so, and we will take note of it!

I admit that comparing the R.E.M. to Madonna was a wingless leap into the void... in short, a gamble!

"Is there any truth in your opinion?" "No. Have a good evening and carry on."

Jorge Luis Borges always said: "de según como se mire todo depende." I speak as a fan of Genesis. It's easy to reassess Calling All Stations by pointing out that during that time there was music from Madonna, Guns 'n' Roses (well, R.E.M. has already been mentioned...). I could also say that the album is terrible because it was released just a few months after OK Computer and a few weeks before Homogenic, emphasizing that compared to these albums, the last Genesis entry is tasteless and irrelevant in the history of music. But if I analyze it without making comparisons, I would say it's a good album, well-crafted, with some sounds that feel dated, a few solid tracks, in terms of structure and harmonic solutions (Banks is always Banks), some ambitious but bland pieces (Rutherford is always Rutherford), and others that are simple but ineffective (Banks is still Banks even when he tries to achieve success with pop tracks).

N.B. Jorge Luis Borges sometimes goes by the name Pau Dones, but he is not a singer.