Graham Coxon: Happiness In Magazines
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Graham Coxon: Happiness in Magazines
8 apr 12
Graham Coxon: The Kiss Of Morning
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Graham Coxon: The Kiss of Morning
8 apr 12
Green Day: American Idiot
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Green Day: American Idiot
17 oct 14
Often underestimated for what they produced both before and after, American Idiot is instead a great album, featuring beautiful tracks, 2 "suites" of about ten minutes each perfectly constructed, and the tension that remains high from start to finish. It's a shame they neither maintained these levels nor attempted further evolution, which had instead occurred here with excellent results.
  • hjhhjij
    17 oct 14
    Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... No :)
  • madcat
    17 oct 14
    I know, I know :D
  • SydBarrett96
    17 oct 14
    When I was in middle school, I must have been around 12-13 years old, I liked it. It's definitely a nice album, also for personal reasons. But I find 5 to be exaggerated, in my opinion. :)
  • hjhhjij
    17 oct 14
    Anyway, I prefer Uno! Dos and Tres, if only for how much they made me laugh here on Debasio.
  • madcat
    17 oct 14
    but when I like an album I still give it a default 5 here, this one is definitely not a 5, a 4 is more than enough, it was more to emphasize that this is the only good one from this band that otherwise sucks even for me
Hüsker Dü: New Day Rising
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Hüsker Dü: New Day Rising
12 jun 14
A fundamental album for alternative rock alongside various daydream nation, surfer rosa, murmur, bug, etc. Between the (now long past) hardcore punk of zen arcade and the contaminations with the best pop of warehouse: songs and stories comes out this, with a remarkable sound wall (at times proto-shoegaze) and excellent songwriting that will inspire many subsequent works.
  • De...Marga...
    12 jun 14
    You were perfect in weaving the sure praises of a fundamental album for the definitive growth of the kids from Minnesota; allow me one further commendable note regarding the gorgeous cover. Extraordinary band: pop-core of the highest quality.
Hüsker Dü: Zen Arcade
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Hüsker Dü: Zen Arcade
18 jun 14
Robust injections of psychedelia, pop, folk rock, and experimentation propel Zen Arcade and Hüsker Dü far beyond hardcore punk and towards the subsequent wonders (most notably, of course, New Day Rising and Warehouse: Songs and Stories).
  • De...Marga...
    18 jun 14
    A record that marked my past youth; discovered by chance in high school thanks to a classmate: a crazy love that has never ended. A sublime band, practically perfect. I only mention the opening track "Something I Learned Today," two minutes of explosiveness with Greg's earth-shaking bass...and then Bob's guitar arrives, carving into the soul and spirit. Great shoutout madcat, I admire you to madness...REOCURRING DREAMS............
  • madcat
    18 jun 14
    thank you :D I then read that it was recorded in 85 hours, 85 (!), when we talk about communicative urgency..
  • De...Marga...
    18 jun 14
    It is true it was recorded in just a few hours: they didn’t need to waste time in the studio. They already had clear ideas and songs at that time.
Hüsker Dü: Warehouse: Songs and Stories
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Hüsker Dü: Warehouse: Songs and Stories
19 mar 14
The pinnacle of songwriting by Husker Du. For me, their absolute peak.
  • SilasLang
    19 mar 14
    They haven't made any bad records; for me, the best of the best of the best (my favorites) are that half masterpiece hardcore "Everything Falls Apart," the EP "Metal Circus," the monumental "Zen Arcade," and "New Day Rising," but this one is also a masterpiece, even though Hart disappoints me a bit with his songs here... but Mould's tracks are so beautiful that who cares about Hart... The record I like the least, however, remains "Candy Apple Grey."
  • madcat
    19 mar 14
    As I mentioned elsewhere, Silas, I completely agree with you on the beautiful Zen Arcade and New Day Rising, and also on Candy Apple Grey, which perhaps is the least successful one.
  • SilasLang
    20 mar 14
    yes...after land speed record.
  • De...Marga...
    20 mar 14
    A great battle between Warehouse and Zen Arcade: a Solomon-like tie for me, at least. Two albums that it's almost reductive to define as sonic monuments, especially considering the quantity of songs; and what can I say about the first live album, that Land Speed Record, which deserves rivers of words just for its cover... and then there are the songs. Ice Cold Ice forever and ever.
Jimi Hendrix: Band Of Gypsys
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Jimi Hendrix: Band of Gypsys
6 jul 13
Not among my favorite Hendrix songs, but just "Machine Gun" is worth a 5.
  • ranofornace
    6 jul 13
    Yes, but what kind of record is this! A special trio for an incredible live blues! This is "History," no bullshit, for me it doesn’t require critical analysis, what’s the point? It’s just to be savored. Great Jimi, great Billy, great Buddy. And if anyone thinks this is decline compared to "Electric Ladyland," oh... who cares! It’s a shame that here we've already reached the end of his incredible existence. "Forever Jimi... glory to you."
  • madcat
    7 jul 13
    If I have to choose an album by Hendrix, I'll pick Electric Ladyland, but from the first to First Rays of the New Rising Sun (among the live albums, I'll choose Woodstock), they're all a 5.
Jimi Hendrix: Live At Woodstock
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Jimi Hendrix: Live at Woodstock
7 jul 13
The best live of Hendrix
Jimi Hendrix: Are You Experienced?
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Jimi Hendrix: Are You Experienced?
8 apr 12
John Lennon: Plastic Ono Band
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John Lennon: John Lennon/Plastic Ono Band
12 jun 13
Cathartic, therapeutic, primordial. Self-destruction and rebirth.
  • SydBarrett96
    13 jun 13
    God is a concept by which we measure our pain.
Kula Shaker: Peasants, Pigs & Astronauts
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Kula Shaker: Peasants, Pigs & Astronauts
14 aug 14
Exactly what one could expect from Kula Shaker after "K" and also for this underrated since its release, when instead it has the same inspiration as the debut in its blend of psychedelic pop rock and Indian sounds.
  • Psychopathia
    14 aug 14
    I never listened to it. I remember very well the lukewarm reviews that greeted this. By the way, I bought it in '98 but it didn't impress me much. It must be at a friend's house. Who knows, maybe today I would change my opinion. I know nothing about their later work.
  • madcat
    14 aug 14
    I don't want to be mistaken, but I believe it was released in '99 (I remember because it came out practically the same day as "13" by Blur; I only had enough money for one, and of course, I bought the Blur album first, this one I got later). As for "K," if you really didn't like this one, I’m not sure it will appeal to you, as the sounds and coordinates are pretty similar (though "K" is a step above it, even if I consider this an excellent album, as I mentioned, maybe give it a listen because it deserves it). After (strangefolk and pilgrims progress) they changed quite a bit, less Indian sound, more psychedelic folk-rock, but still consistently good/excellent albums.
  • Psychopathia
    14 aug 14
    you're definitely right. I have hazy memories because it was in '99 that my problems started. Even though I was convinced that 13 came out in April or May and Kula around October, that's why I was thinking of '98. That year, a record by a band that disappeared right away came out, the so-called Fuerslide... I don't know if you remember, by the way, I didn't even buy it. I think Ideal Crash by Deus also came out.
  • madcat
    14 aug 14
    I don’t really remember the psycho, but I do remember the fuerslide. I remember that period more or less, maybe more around March, but who knows. I recalled that Kula Shaker had also released something (on TV, they were still airing the weekly charts of the best-selling records with the related videos, and I seem to remember that both 13 with the video Tender and Peasants, Pigs and Astronauts with Mystical Machine Gun were new entries :D).
  • Lao Tze
    15 aug 14
    underrated by many because associated with brit-pop, in my opinion. Sure they were pop, but linking them to certain ephemeral (if not poor) phenomena of 1990s England just doesn’t fit. Then try to get your hands on the original lyrics (the original, not the adaptation) of 'Namàmi Nànda-Nàndana' and at that point you'll realize that Crispian Mills has a genius and a passion like few others. I’ve listened to it on repeat; the last time was (funny enough) no more than three days ago...
Kula Shaker: Strangefolk
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Kula Shaker: Strangefolk
29 nov 15
The clear demonstration that Kula Shaker still had much to say after "Peasants, Pigs & Astronauts".
Kula Shaker: K
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Kula Shaker: K
21 nov 15
Despite the excellent subsequent albums, this remains without a doubt their masterpiece.
Love: Forever Changes
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Love: Forever Changes
3 oct 14
I have always seen in this splendid album a possible meeting point between American and English psychedelia.
  • Psychopathia
    3 oct 14
    I bought it in 2002. At first, it seemed a bit light and somewhat distant from my tastes, but I must admit that it’s quite sturdy. I haven’t listened to it in a while; I hope to do so in the coming days.
  • madcat
    3 oct 14
    I bought it a couple of years later, in the same year I acquired other stuff from that period like Byrds, Jefferson Airplane, Pretty Things; I was obsessed with '60s psychedelia. This one, I must say, struck me pretty immediately, unlike some of the Jefferson Airplane's works like Surrealistic Pillow, which, aside from the strong tracks like that masterpiece of under 3 minutes that is white rabbit, disappointed me a bit (After Bathing at Baxter's, on the other hand, blew me away, and it remains my favorite of theirs).
  • hellraiser
    3 oct 14
    A particular album from many points of view, but colorful, "vibrant," brilliant, with dreamy arrangements and excellent lyrics, certainly a cornerstone of psychedelia everywhere...
Miles Davis: Bitches Brew
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8 apr 12
Motorpsycho: Angels and Daemons at Play
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Motorpsycho: Angels and Daemons at Play
19 feb 14
A splendid summary of what they had done up to that point.
  • Psychopathia
    19 feb 14
    I would like to buy it... Silas has spoken well of it too. But it's been since 2008 since I've seen a well-stocked record store (they've all closed), so I'll have to order it online as soon as possible. Better to break the delays than to break my balls :)
  • SilasLang
    19 feb 14
    "Timothy's Monster," "Blissard," and this....what a triptych! WHAT A TRIPTYCH!
  • madcat
    20 feb 14
    with trust us then for me they reach their peak
  • Goldfinger
    20 feb 14
    Stunning album. In March, however, the new album "Behind the sun" will be released along with the corresponding dates in Italy.
  • madcat
    20 feb 14
    Oh yes, I knew there was supposed to be a new one coming out, a double if I'm not mistaken. I'm almost tempted to get it sight unseen, considering how much I enjoyed the last still life with eggplant.
Motorpsycho: Trust Us
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Motorpsycho: Trust Us
18 jun 13
Only the first album would be a 5, but there’s also the entire second one, including a gem like "Hey Jane."
  • ZannaB
    18 jun 13
    I bought it a couple of weeks ago, I'm still in shock...
  • ranofornace
    18 jun 13
    What sounds between those fjords! So cool! I would also mention the energetic "Ozone" (very mod). Even though it's less hard than the others, it's more psychedelic, with acoustic sounds and extreme improvisations, distorted noises and bare songs, sudden psych accelerations, and collages of experimental sounds.
  • Goldfinger
    18 jun 13
    Holy Words, the album is a masterpiece for me; the songs are more beautiful than the other, especially Vortex Surfer. You made me want to listen to it for the umpteenth time.
motorpsycho: timothy's monster
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Motorpsycho: Timothy's Monster
2 dec 13
An album that contains tracks like "Kill some day," "Leave it like that," "Giftland," "Watersound," and "The golden core" can only be a 5. "Trust Us" remains my favorite by Motorpsycho, but this one comes right after.
  • GIANLUIGI67
    2 dec 13
    I prefer this.
  • hjhhjij
    2 dec 13
    Really good stuff.
  • Goldfinger
    2 dec 13
    There isn't a Motorpsycho album from the '90s that isn't beautiful; for me, this is their peak, but the choice is truly difficult.
  • rolando303
    2 dec 13
    Seen 3 times. Legendary.
Motorpsycho: Black Hole/Blank Canvas
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Motorpsycho: Black Hole/Blank Canvas
5 may 14
Not one of their best from the '00s; just one of their best, period.
  • SilasLang
    5 may 14
    Well! To each their own ;-) But it seems like I just read one of the biggest blasphemies. But I care about you, so I won't get angry XD Let’s just say it’s the least worst after Let Them Eat Cake, which for me is their last great album. But just imagining this next to "Blissard" and "Angels And Daemons At Play".....hmmm, anyway.
  • madcat
    6 may 14
    :D Look, I find it hard to place it on the same level as Trust Us, but for the rest, alongside the others usually mentioned by Motorpsycho, I think it fits perfectly, in fact, sometimes it even surpasses them (Blissard, for example, has never blown me away, I consider this one far superior to Blissard).
  • ZannaB
    6 may 14
    As Mad doesn't provoke anyone! I miss that, it ends up that I'm listening to it and I'm getting attached. Of course, I find it hard to imagine anything better than Blissard...
  • madcat
    6 may 14
    hehe! :D Look, Zanna, I believe that Motorpsycho have been truly underrated here since the 2000s. I also miss quite a few albums from the 2000s, but "Let Them Eat Cake," "Still Life with Eggplant," and "Behind the Sun" are really great records, and this one in particular is my favorite from their second phase, so you’re absolutely right to give it at least one listen. As for "Blissard," I consider it a 4-star album, not a 5. This one is a full 5 for me.
  • SilasLang
    8 may 14
    Better than Blissard????? Alright... I still love you anyway ;)
Muse: Black Holes And Revelations
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Muse: Black Holes and Revelations
8 apr 12
Muse: Origin Of Symmetry
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Muse: Origin of Symmetry
8 apr 12
Muse: Hullabaloo
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Muse: Hullabaloo Soundtrack
8 apr 12
My Bloody Valentine: Loveless
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My Bloody Valentine: Loveless
23 apr 13
"Like wandering in the coils of thought made of anesthetic gases with a honey flavor. Like being fascinated by the presence of emptiness, loveless induces a state of heroin-addict passivity." cit. rece macropixel
My Bloody Valentine: M B V
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My Bloody Valentine: M B V
17 oct 13
They start from the depths of the abyss ("She Found Now") to eventually float in space ("Wonder 2").
  • hjhhjij
    17 oct 13
    Not a 5 for me, but it's true, it's a nice album. If only all the "comin' bec" were like this.
  • madcat
    17 oct 13
    It took me quite a few listens to get into it: this time around (loveless had immediately captivated me from the second track during the first listen) it grew slowly before hitting big; in fact, beyond appearances, for me it's a very different album from loveless (while still, of course, retaining their sonic magma) and that's a good thing.
  • hjhhjij
    17 oct 13
    Yes, it is different from Loveless, indeed. Look, I liked it from the start, of course it has also grown on me over time.
  • madcat
    17 oct 13
    I actually liked it almost right away (the first one I listened to was Wonder 2 because it had been posted and I was left speechless), but overall it didn't fully resonate with me, maybe precisely because, simply and stupidly, I was expecting a loveless 2 :) which fortunately they didn't make.
  • hjhhjij
    17 oct 13
    What a stroke of luck, "Wonder 2" is the masterpiece of the album :D
  • SilasLang
    17 oct 13
    But they never left, it’s not a reunion... it’s just that Shields is as crazy as a string of camels all put together, ahahah! anyway, beautiful.
  • madcat
    17 oct 13
    Yes, but technically it's not a reunion because they never broke up, hehe how cool :)
  • SilasLang
    17 oct 13
    They started working on this around '94, then it was abandoned, picked up again, re-abandoned, and so on. "wonder 2" experiments quite a bit with certain Drum n' Bass rhythms; I wouldn't be surprised if it was conceived around the mid/late '90s, given that it was the time when many artists, even outside the electronic scene, were experimenting with jungle beats.
  • hjhhjij
    17 oct 13
    Yes, this is true, an album that Shields worked on when the hell it suited him for twenty years and more. And it’s not a reunion but a return (comeback, I said) since they officially vanished from the scene, without splitting up, in 1991, damn it :)
  • SilasLang
    17 oct 13
    a kind of Brian Wilson syndrome, ahahah..
  • hjhhjij
    17 oct 13
    Yes, indeed I think good Kevin is quite annoyed to have caught "the BW syndrome" ahhahahaha.
  • madcat
    17 oct 13
    ehhe true damn... if I think about it, 22 years for an album is something beyond anything else, I don't know how long Wilson took to put out Smile (maybe longer). Anyway, it's true, Shield in the '90s said he was working on something he referred to as "jungle."
  • SilasLang
    17 oct 13
    Ah yes, it was the years of the jungle boom (after the first illegal raves), from '94 to '98, up and down :)
  • hjhhjij
    17 oct 13
    Sure, I trust that in 1994-95 my usual activities were sucking my thumb, singing the Sunday-in theme, and my kiss is like a rock and destroying dolls. I didn't have time to follow the ups and downs of My Bloody Valentine, understand me.
  • SilasLang
    17 oct 13
    What can I say, lucky you for your age! Lucky me for everything else, ahahahah :D
  • hjhhjij
    17 oct 13
    Hahaha true :)
  • GIANLUIGI67
    17 oct 13
    I was a bit disappointed; it’s a nice album, but after 22 years, I expected something different. I expected them to be more daring. Instead, with slight variations, they have revisited the sound from 22 years ago, tones that have been studied, inverted, and reintroduced by countless bands. In short, nothing new... for example, Belong have pushed the boundaries of shoegaze, creating an album that, for me, is superior to M V B.
  • SilasLang
    17 oct 13
    @gianluigi67 but why, in my opinion, this material dates back nearly 20 years, for the most part :)
  • madcat
    17 oct 13
    It should be listened to without thinking that it took 22 years; it's the successor to Loveless. How long it took doesn't matter to me; it could have never seen the light of day, yet here it is.
My Bloody Valentine: EP's 1988-1991
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My Bloody Valentine: EP's 1988-1991
6 jul 13
Neil Young & Crazy Horse: Psychedelic Pill
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Neil Young & Crazy Horse: Psychedelic Pill
6 may 14
Grand album, it feels like running through the prairies alongside the Native American on the cover. Epic and thrilling, with the lengthy "Walk like a Giant" and "Ramada Inn" as absolute peaks.
  • Mr Funk
    6 may 14
    Canadian Loner's disc, seen, by the way, last summer in Lucca. A great one.
  • hjhhjij
    6 may 14
    Seen in Rome. Great concert. The album is excellent, wow, I didn't expect it to be so good. Distorted and earthy (almost droney, almost) like in the '90s. Let’s go.
  • madcat
    6 may 14
    Envy for Rome mr funk, but I didn't have the money for a third concert last year (my bloody valentine and blur). hyhy true like in the days of ragged glory
  • hjhhjij
    6 may 14
    In Rome, there I was oh, Mr. Funk went to Lucca :D Well, you're complaining, you saw the MBV damn. True, the most distorted since Ragged Glory...and Weld.
  • madcat
    6 may 14
    oh no hyhy in Rome rightly and funk in Lucca, envy for both then :D
  • hellraiser
    6 may 14
    Beautiful, but I throw away very little from '66 to today...
  • hjhhjij
    6 may 14
    Well, a few from the '80s and the '00s. Fortunately, the other three (four with this last one) decades are immense. Envy us envy us mad, do good XD
Nirvana: Live At Reading
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Nirvana: Live at Reading
6 jun 13
The best electric live album by Nirvana. Stunning.
Nirvana: MTV Unplugged In New York DVD
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Nirvana: MTV Unplugged In New York DVD
8 apr 12
Nirvana: With the lights out
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Nirvana: With The Lights Out
19 nov 13
I really appreciated how this wonderful retrospective was curated (by Endino) to showcase the spirit of Nirvana: it reminds me of a reflection made by the Wipers about the fact that only with something extremely raw can one achieve a crystalline purity.
  • hjhhjij
    19 nov 13
    I am sure that sooner or later you will de-collect the underwear that Novoselic wore on New Year's Eve of 1990.
  • madcat
    19 nov 13
    they are not in the database
  • SilasLang
    19 nov 13
    I've got it. An ex-girlfriend of mine gave it to me.
  • hjhhjij
    19 nov 13
    But you can still de-collect them, just write "Nirvana - Novoselic's Underwear New Year's '90" and voilà. Sure, it will be without an image, but I think it's better that way.
  • hjhhjij
    19 nov 13
    God S, I thought you had Novoselic's underwear.
  • madcat
    19 nov 13
    Ahha I interpreted it that way too :D
  • hjhhjij
    19 nov 13
    Incubus :D
  • hjhhjij
    19 nov 13
    Oh yes, maybe the ex met Novoselic XD
  • madcat
    19 nov 13
    oh no ihihih without the photo, there's no fun in collecting, maybe I'll send it to the editors for Christmas :D
  • hjhhjij
    19 nov 13
    But you have it. I knew it.
  • madcat
    19 nov 13
    obviously, we’re not here to tickle ants
  • hjhhjij
    19 nov 13
    Well, on the other hand, I have the toilet cover that Hammill had in 1983.
Nirvana: Singles
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Nirvana: Singles
24 dec 12
Nirvana: In Utero
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Nirvana: In Utero
23 apr 13
one of the two albums that changed my musical perspective, and not only that, on things
  • SilasLang
    23 apr 13
    Undoubtedly one of the best albums of the '90s... I caught them live in Rome, at the Palaghiaccio, along with the Melvins. What can I say? Nevermind didn't do much for me, unlike the majority of people, instead...
  • madcat
    23 apr 13
    I couldn't bring myself to see them. Anger
Nirvana: Bleach
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Nirvana: Bleach
19 sep 13
Liberating mantras to exorcise one's demons.
  • hjhhjij
    19 sep 13
    Discone.
  • madcat
    19 sep 13
    true
  • GIANLUIGI67
    19 sep 13
    the best of Nirvana, without a shadow of a doubt
  • whocares
    19 sep 13
    If there were songs like as you are (stolen), in bloom, and territorial pissing, it...
  • aerdna
    19 sep 13
    In return, there are Sifting, School, Floyd the Barber, Blew, Paper Cuts, Downer which (in my opinion) are even better than the aforementioned ones...
Nirvana: Incesticide
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Nirvana: Incesticide
17 sep 13
In the evolution of their sound, it sits perfectly between Bleach and Nevermind (even though it was released after the latter masterpiece). An album that contains tracks like Dive, Aneurysm, Sliver, Stain, Been a Son, Aero Zeppelin, Big Long Now can deserve nothing less than a 5.
  • SilasLang
    17 sep 13
    I've always preferred this to Nevermind by far.
  • madcat
    17 sep 13
    I know, I know Silas, :D but what's your favorite Nirvana song?
  • SilasLang
    18 sep 13
    "In Utero," without a doubt!
  • aerdna
    18 sep 13
    Yess... side A with the three covers, with a sped-up Polly, and a lot of Grohl on the drums, is the most explosive part of the album. Side B featuring Dale Crover and Chad Channing, with Grohl only on the magnificent Aneurysm, has a more typically """GRUNGE""" vibe (a Bleach-style mix of garage, hardcore, sludge, and alternative). Almost all recordings date back to 88-89-90 and something from 1991... An album that could have been done better, for example as an official album before Nevermind and the change in direction, but still maintains a great charm and some incredible sounds.
  • aerdna
    18 sep 13
    *it's the most impetuous yet melodic part of the album (I add: we're heading towards Nevermind)
  • aerdna
    18 sep 13
    About grunge (the more stylistically definable one, so the one from the Seattle beginnings), it's interesting how Nirvana, Tad, Mudhoney, Soundgarden, Melvins, and Screaming Trees at a certain point (perhaps thanks to the success of Nevermind) all softened their sound while still producing great albums. A different case is that of Alice In Chains, who were remarkable but debuted on a major label, thus lacking a "true grunge debut" (and that's not a tragedy, eh) and Pearl Jam, who were directly a softening of previous grunge bands.
  • madcat
    18 sep 13
    mine is also in utero, and I'm awaiting the reissue with live and loud next week :D
    specifically regarding Pearl Jam, I remember how one of the group (I think it was one of the two guitarists but I can't recall exactly) said that it was actually Cobain's initial criticisms that made them start engaging in self-criticism, and indeed the most beautiful things for me were made by Pearl Jam with Vitalogy and No Code.
  • aerdna
    18 sep 13
    Last bit of nonsense and then I'm done ;-) ... many say that grunge as a musical genre never really existed, and they might be right. However, I feel there's a common thread between Bleach + this, the first two albums by the Melvins, the EP-era Soundgarden, early Mudhoney, the first albums by TAD, even the never-so-loved (by me) Skin Yard, Green River... maybe a bit less with Screaming Trees, who were, after all, buddies with all these guys... "there's a bit of sludge in all of us. But you can also feel the hardcore element, even if you play '70s rock" :-P
  • madcat
    18 sep 13
    Well, they were all under Sub Pop at the beginning, right? I mean, Sub Pop also released stuff from Smashing Pumpkins and Afghan Whigs back then, but it was the label for that sound: heavy, distorted, angry, tied to hard rock, garage, punk rock, and psychedelia, even though they were all obviously very different from each other. In any case, my favorites from Nirvana remain Nevermind, In Utero, Unplugged, and Live At Reading (and soon Live and Loud will be added to that list), so definitely after the first period (that one too, for sure).
  • aerdna
    18 sep 13
    Well, in the end, if you look at all the collaborations and parallel projects of the Pearl Jam members (aside from Eddie Vedder), you can uncover so much interesting stuff, maybe even more than the PJ themselves, that there's really no need to discuss the artistic stature of the individuals. In my opinion, they did well to keep it simple at a certain point. They sold more than everyone else without any major peaks but also without big falls or pathetic moments, and live they've always made quite an impression. The heart of the Seattle music scene of those years was elsewhere, but I have nothing to reproach the PJ for, not even if they had remained at Vs. (which is my favorite of theirs).
  • aerdna
    18 sep 13
    Yes, yes... grunge was 100% Sub Pop Sound, but vice versa as well. I enjoy both "periods." Different things. And thank goodness they made different things, since I have different moods and I like to switch up music in different situations! I don’t even have to look elsewhere :-)
  • SilasLang
    18 sep 13
    Ah dear madcat, yes, I love In Utero more than all their albums, followed closely by Bleach and this one....and then I've never really liked Nevermind that much :) Regarding Pearl Jam, I completely agree, I have all their albums up to Yield, but they’ve never said much to me, with the exception of Vitalogy, which I really find beautiful, the most acidic, raw, and visceral, finally free from that "stadium" sheen of the other works. Yes, I also didn't mind No Code...but Vitalogy is a rarity in their discography, for me..Ten almost makes me sick, I’m being honest..
  • madcat
    18 sep 13
    Look, Vitalogy is also my favorite Pearl Jam album, partly for sentimental reasons, but objectively No Code is beautiful too, same quality level, really nice. Ten has never grabbed me either; there are objectively great tracks, but there’s also a dip and boredom, especially in the second half for me. Anyway, on an emotional level, the standout tracks from the debut truly resonate; some consider it their peak no matter what, and there are those who really love it right away, I think because of the emotional impact of those songs (even flow, alive, black, jeremy). However, overall it has never fully satisfied me.
Nirvana: Nevermind
CD Audio I have it ★★★★★
Nirvana: Nevermind
25 jun 13
The scream of a child against the shitty system they have been suddenly thrown into.
  • SilasLang
    25 jun 13
    I'll tell you, that discoulo has never driven me crazy, and I bought it fresh out of release, practically. Then it's a matter of taste, but in my opinion, it's a bit too overrated because of the audience boom that followed (however, nothing compared to the boom that happened after the famous gunshot..) All the praises given to this one personally deserved In Utero, that's one of the coolest discs of the nineties... nice definition anyway :)
  • aerdna
    25 jun 13
    Indeed, this album has great songs (if you like the genre) but produced in an abysmal way (if you like the genre). (In fact, it pleased more other listeners, who appreciated nothing else of the genre) anyway, a nice little record. The next one, "In Utero," has even better songs with better production, which I believe was initially by Albini and then touched up various times by different people... and indeed not completely satisfying according to the Nirvana themselves, among other things already hinting at a breakup. Anyway, I found them more likable during the '89-91 period, both with the exceptional Chad Channing and the very skilled Dave Grohl. And live they gave their best (if you like the genre). Incesticide and Bleach my favorites. Bye and whatever.
  • madcat
    25 jun 13
    Thank you Silas for the "cool definition anyway :)" My favorite Nirvana album is also In Utero, and it undoubtedly deserves all the praise it has received (and perhaps even a bit more, right?), but in terms of quality, for me, they are on the same level.
  • SilasLang
    25 jun 13
    I saw them at the ice rink in Rome, with the Melvins as the opening act (immense).. but you could feel the impending end (as a band) just by watching them on stage. A friend older than me was lucky enough to see them during the Bleach tour, when Nirvana opened for TAD. I agree with you, Andrea.. there should be a bootleg floating around of the original Nevermind master, the one by Butch Vig.. much rawer and truer than the watered-down production that hit the market.
  • madcat
    25 jun 13
    Every time you have to make me jealous, Silas, with the live show at the Palaghiaccio :D
  • SilasLang
    25 jun 13
    hahahah
  • SilasLang
    25 jun 13
    ps. I'm also envious of that friend of mine who saw them at the peak of punk destruction! In Rome, Cobain was really in bad shape from what I remember (not that I was in a better spot at the time) :D Anyway, yes, I caught them in extremis, considering that a couple of months later...
  • aerdna
    25 jun 13
    Oh, the Bleach tour must have been something incredible. I loved/love the TAD so much too. As for this live show in Rome from '91, judge for yourselves I just think that in '91 they were rightly at the peak of their form. They were great afterwards too, but less devastating and more devastated (in a negative sense). As for the nice definition of madcat, it must be said that with the success that came, they wallowed quite a bit in the "shitty system"... I don't want to judge Cobain's choice to escape from it, but the post-'91 "poses" are well documented. At least in the concerts they maintained a minimum of genuineness, despite all the problems with Kurdt and the band itself.
  • aerdna
    25 jun 13
    P.S. "In Utero" anyway great.
  • ranofornace
    25 jun 13
    "Nevermind, In Utero" two great albums, surely among the best 20 of the '90s.
  • madcat
    26 jun 13
    Hi aerdna and thanks for the "beautiful definition," but I didn’t understand what you mean by "pose" post-91. Moreover, genuineness was one of Cobain's main characteristics. I also disagree with the idea of wallowing in the system: Cobain had an absolute rage, bitterness, and contempt against it; his records are (also) this.
  • aerdna
    26 jun 13
    I mean to say that, with success, the boundary between "I do it because I'm forced, but it really annoys me" and "let's flaunt the fact that I'm extremely annoyed and show our disgust, after all, I can do whatever the hell I want" is very thin... Between this Ingrandisci questa immagine and this Ingrandisci questa immagine or between this Ingrandisci questa immagine and this Ingrandisci questa immagine there is a very subtle and imperceptible difference at its core... But it exists. Quite normal, I would say. And anyway, yes, Cobain was definitely more genuine than many others, considering he didn’t even reach 30 years of age. There was some reversal with the release of Incesticide. However, some lapses in "style" (compared to what it was at the beginning) were evident...
  • aerdna
    26 jun 13
    In general, I never thought much of him, but who cares... he left behind quite a bit of music that I like, and in the end, that matters more.
Nirvana: Nirvana
CD Audio I have it
Nirvana: Nirvana
8 apr 12
Nirvana: Unplugged in New York
CD Audio I have it ★★★★★
Nirvana: 1993-11-18: Unplugged in New York: Unedited: MTV Unplugged, Sony Studios, New York City, NY, USA
14 jun 13
Cobain declared that he would have liked to make an acoustic album after "In Utero": here it is.
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