12

The Velvet Underground • Velvet Underground and Nico

16

Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band • Safe as Milk

20

King Crimson • In the Court of the Crimson King: An Observation by King Crimson

21

Neutral Milk Hotel • In the Aeroplane Over the Sea

29

Sparklehorse • Vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot

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  • Ejapela
    19 oct 13
    I signed up just to talk about music and especially to meet artists I’ve never heard of, so anyone who wants to, feel free to write :)
     
  • hjhhjij
    19 oct 13
    Well, I started saying "bravo" from the first two and frankly, I found no reason to stop. Goodness, there are a couple of things I don't agree with, but if you include Starsailor and Happy Sad by Buckley in the first two, you're good for life with me. Then there are Faust, Can, VU, Sparklehorse, Crimson, Eno, etc. In short, well done, nice, encore.
     
  • hellraiser
    19 oct 13
    I see a lot of Buckley and I like it (though Lorca is my favorite). Of course, Animals by Floyd at number 3 is peculiar; everyone I know rates it the worst, but I like it, even if Meddle is my favorite. Astral Weeks is the best ever by Van Morrison, great list!
     
  • hjhhjij
    19 oct 13
    Lorca is absolute, you're right; fortunately for me, it's very hard to choose his best.
     
  • madcat
    19 oct 13
    And for me, too, Animals is one of the best by Pink Floyd.
     
  • madcat
    19 oct 13
    beautiful also the triple kid a-in utero-no code
     
  • hjhhjij
    19 oct 13
    But it's fine, the ranking is his, and then Animals is an absolutely good album (the last one for me from the Floyd, eh eh). In Utero and Kid A are also fine (Radiohead for me at their best). However, the one from Pearl Jam is one of the few things I don't like, but to each their own. I just don't understand the Strokes :)
     
  • Ejapela
    19 oct 13
    Of course, it's an open ranking; I need to add more things and maybe remove something (Is this it marked some years of my life too deeply, I couldn't not include it, but maybe it will go away).
     
  • hjhhjij
    19 oct 13
    Yes, anyway, it's very, very beautiful; they are almost all outstanding players.
     
  • Ejapela
    19 oct 13
    I hope to greatly expand it by reading your suggestions!
     
  • hjhhjij
    19 oct 13
    So, okay then, I have to say it: since there are Buckley, Drake, Faust, Can, Eno, VU, Crimson, etc., all among my absolute favorites, how about something from Van Der Graaf Generator, Neil Young, Tom Waits, Joni Mitchell, Peter Hammill, Genesis, Peter Gabriel (and Collapsing got angry :D)? I've gone with the classics so far, just because I haven't seen them here. But maybe you simply prefer these; rankings are subjective, which is why I don’t like to recommend too much here.
     
  • hjhhjij
    19 oct 13
    And for Germany: Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Amon Düül II. Then I don’t know, for psychedelia Hash Jar Tempo or something from Roy Montgomery solo (I see Dadamah in the rankings). Or Flaming Lips and early Mercury Rev. Plus the classics Jefferson Airplane, Grateful Dead, Quicksilver, etc. If you find these guys crap, just tell me right away :D
     
  • iside
    19 oct 13
    Faust is missing.
     
  • Ejapela
    20 oct 13
    I've been listening to some Van der Graaf, Klaus Schulze, and La Düsseldorf lately, but I still need to fully understand them and see what they convey to me. I'll listen to something by Joni Mitchell (what?). Also, I wanted to include something by White Heaven, but I couldn't find it; however, I really like Hash Jar Tempo (well oiled) and Ash Ra Tempel. I'm almost obsessed with Tim Buckley, and I also love Blue Afternoon. In my opinion, No Code by PJ is the best along with Vitalogy (Hail Hail is amazing).
     
    • hjhhjij
      20 oct 13
      "I’m almost obsessed with Tim Buckley and I also love blue afternoon." Yeah, I know, the only ones I don't adore are the last three unfortunate albums; otherwise, I drool over every piece of his from 1966 to 1970 :) As for Joni Mitchell, well, there’s the singer-songwriter/folk period (let’s say until 1974) and the increasingly marked jazz turn (1975-1980). These are her best years; try listening to "Blue" for the first period and "Hejira" for the second—these are probably her respective "signature albums."
    • Ejapela
      20 oct 13
      I would definitely save greetings from l.a by Tim as well, even just for get on top and sweet surrender which I absolutely love!
    • hjhhjij
      20 oct 13
      I’ll save it too (3/5 in Debaser's evaluation) considering that "Sweet Surrender" is perhaps Buckley's last great piece. But there’s something worth saving in every one of his albums, of course. Sure, if the best song on "Sefronia" is a cover (not even a very successful one) of a barely debuting singer-songwriter ("Martha" by Tom Waits from the debut album Closing Time released just a few months earlier, also in '73) and the usual cover of a classic from your mentor (Dolphins) that you've been performing live for years in far superior versions, then something's not right. But it matters little with all the treasures he left behind.
  • ranofornace
    20 oct 13
    I wanted to chime in on the ranking, but HJ, I discover you’re a river in flood and that’s enough for me! You confirm what I had sensed; you know a lot of things, which you often don’t hesitate to define as "carenze," but I consider them "scarti" of music that doesn't matter, music that "breaks" and forces me to violate my sensitivity. Or is all of this a generational issue?
     
    • Ejapela
      20 oct 13
      Hi, what do you mean by the scraps of music?
    • iside
      20 oct 13
      means Faust’O!
    • ranofornace
      20 oct 13
      Without naming names, I have a hard time digesting everything from the '80s onwards, new psych excluded. "meam angustia"
    • Mr. Money87
      20 oct 13
      Damn, you digest a lot of stuff poorly, almost like you’re celiac. XD
    • ranofornace
      20 oct 13
      eeee.... dear Mr. Money87 unfortunately I digest poorly, first of all the sounds are too evolved and well-made, then all the pop, punk, post-punk, shoegaze, noise, grunge, and then all the "modernity" and all the "contemporaneity" in general, doesn't attract me and fails to fascinate me, so I stay away from it. It may be my limitation and I have to come to terms with it, but that doesn't make me feel limited and I do not harbor envy or inferiority towards all of you "total connoisseurs."
  • Mr. Money87
    20 oct 13
    A ranking featuring these people can't help but be a good ranking. The first absent names that come to mind are Robert Wyatt, Soft Machine, Morphine, Neil Young. Did I forget someone? Who? I don't know! The Who?!?
     
  • hjhhjij
    20 oct 13
    Yes, Rock Bottom by Wyatt would fit perfectly here. How about some classics like The Who (already suggested by the guy from POS above) and Stones? Or some other Canterbury bands (Caravan, Gong...)? Morphine would also be good. Well, the possible additions are countless. So, have the suggestions come in? XD
     
  • Ejapela
    20 oct 13
    I completely forgot about Morphine (I mean Good, right), I still have to listen to Third by Soft Machine a bit more, I like Neil Young a lot but maybe not enough.
     
  • Ejapela
    20 oct 13
    Anyway, thank you! :)
     
  • hjhhjij
    20 oct 13
    Please, however, "I like Neil Young a lot but maybe not enough." That's why I don't like to break too much with the recommendations in the rankings; in the end, they are subjective and should reflect what the ranking's author likes most of all, Young or no Young :) (I'm saying 'him' to refer to anyone). Immense Morphine, perhaps "Good" is THE album of the band, but Cure for Pain is just a millimeter away and Yes doesn't joke around either.
     
    • Ejapela
      20 oct 13
      But it’s perfectly fine with me that for someone it should be "mandatory" to include a certain artist! No problem...
    • hjhhjij
      20 oct 13
      Well, for me Young is definitely a must. In my listening habits and any rankings I may have though ;) If I happen to find it in others’, that’s nice, but in the end it doesn’t matter much.
  • rolando303
    20 oct 13
    Morphine topppppppppppppppp.
     
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