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Best Rock artist of all time
I MIEI DISCHI "ROCK" PREFERITI
<b>The Rolling Stones</b>

1

The Rolling Stones

Exile On Main Street; Sticky Fingers; Let it Bleed
<b>Van Morrison</b>

2

Van Morrison

Astral Weeks; Moondance
<b>Bob Dylan</b>

3

Bob Dylan

Blonde on Blonde; Blood On The Tracks; The Basement Tapes
<b>Tom Waits</b>

4

Tom Waits

Rain Dogs; Frank Wild Years; Sword
<b>Neil Young</b>

5

Neil Young

On The Beach; After the Gold Rush; Tonight's The Night
<b>Jimi Hendrix</b>

6

Jimi Hendrix

Electric Ladyland; Are You Experienced?
<b>Tim Buckley</b>

8

Tim Buckley

Goodbye And Hello; Happy Sad; Lorca
<b>Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band</b>

9

Captain Beefheart & His Magic Band

Safe as Milk; Trout Mask Replica
<b>Bruce Springsteen</b>

10

Bruce Springsteen

Born To Run; Darkness On The Edge Of Town
<b>Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds</b>

11

Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds

The First Bord is Dead; The Good Son
<b>The Velvet Underground</b>

12

The Velvet Underground

The Velvet Underground & Nico
<b>Leonard Cohen</b>

15

Leonard Cohen

Songs Of Leonard Cohen
<b>Jefferson Airplane</b>

18

Jefferson Airplane

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  • Mr. Money87
    Mr. Money87
    11 jul 11
    How come Goodbye and Hello by Tim Buckley is a good album, in my opinion, but not his best?
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    11 jul 11
    because it's the easiest to listen to.. it comes straight to the point
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    11 jul 11
    according to happy sad, third blue afternoon, fourth lorca, finally starsailor... anyway, all immense, astounding albums
     
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  • Mr. Money87
    Mr. Money87
    11 jul 11
    I understand perfectly.
     
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  • Mr. Money87
    Mr. Money87
    11 jul 11
    For me the first is starsailor, the second lorca, the third goodbay and hello, the fourth happy sad and finally blue afternoon.
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    11 jul 11
    ..In matters of taste, there can be no disputes.
     
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  • Mr. Money87
    Mr. Money87
    11 jul 11
    I really have to listen to this television. Everyone is talking so highly about this Marque Moon!! I need to get my hands on it.
     
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  • Felo
    Felo
    27 aug 11
    I prefer From Her To Eternity and The Good Son by Cave. For the rest, I think my favorite is Rock Bottom. Nice ranking.
     
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  • TheJargonKing
    TheJargonKing
    27 aug 11
    Why Love Beach? It seems to me that N.Y. has produced definitely superior albums, beyond taste.
     
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  • TheJargonKing
    TheJargonKing
    27 aug 11
    On the beach, sorry ... I was thinking about something else flop ...
     
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  • Larrok
    Larrok
    27 aug 11
    "In my opinion, 'On the Beach' is Neil Young's best album, alongside 'Tonight's the Night'... the atmosphere of drift/desolation that permeates tracks like 'Motion Pictures', the title track, and the monumental gem 'Ambulance Blues' is something extraordinary. In short, the A-side of the LP is excellent, while the B-side is pure legend."
     
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  • ProgRock
    ProgRock
    27 aug 11
    As for Bob Dylan, I would have left "Blonde On Blonde," for Cave I would have chosen "The Good Son," and for Buckley "Lorca" or "Happy Sad," but the albums selected from these are equally masterpieces anyway, just like the other artists included.
     
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  • metafisico
    metafisico
    28 aug 11
    mmm...Velvet Underground and Nico at eighteenth position? Seems a bit low to me...I would have placed The Good Son by Cave and Highway 61 Revisited by Dylan...
     
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  • pirata
    pirata
    28 aug 11
    the velvet underground couldn't play for shit, they were a bunch of spineless momma's boys. more than half of the names on this list have nothing to do with rock. bob dylan rock? at best it's electric folk. you don't know jack about rock.
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    30 aug 11
    ..well pirate, you’re right.. half the people on this list have nothing to do with "real Rock"... I meant to use the word "Rock" in its broadest sense, as a synonym for "modern music" (spiritual, blues, R&B, R&R, bluegrass, folk, country, psychedelic rock, progressive rock, punk, new wave, etc..) ... as for not knowing a damn thing about rock, I can assure you that’s not the case...
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    30 aug 11
    ...I think the closing trio of On The Beach (Motion Pictures, On The Beach, and Ambulance Blues) is nothing short of superlative in its depth, intensity, sincerity, and despair... it’s as bittersweet as few other endings in rock albums... and then there's revolution blues...
     
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  • jdv666
    jdv666
    2 oct 11
    I've never listened to Van Morrison, but is he really as incredible as everyone says? Because I hear people talking about almost mystical experiences :D What's his style like? Just to get an idea.
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    2 oct 11
    ..yes yes, absolutely right, his albums are mystical experiences...the style is sometimes a liquid and velvety folk jazz, other times a restless and vehement soul blues...in short, his albums make you cry...Astral Weeks, Moondance, Veedon Fleece, Into The Music, A Sense Of Wonder, No Guru No Methods No Teachers are all albums you absolutely need to have..
     
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  • Felo
    Felo
    2 oct 11
    Astral Weeks is truly a masterpiece. I'm glad to see Tom Waits doing so well.
     
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  • pirata
    pirata
    1 nov 11
    you're just a messed-up junkie j&r. you criticize led zeppelin because of their riffs. and you put THE rolling stones in fourth place. ah ah, without richards' riffs who even cared about the rolling stones? you're a walking contradiction. artistic sensitivity. you have the sensitivity of a block of marble from apricena.
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    7 nov 11
    you don't understand a thing
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    7 nov 11
    ..but I never claimed that the Rolling Stones don't rely on Richards' riffs..find me where I said the opposite..the Stones are a pop band just like the Zeppelins...there's no contradiction in what I said..both bands built their success on simple and catchy riffs..however, the Stones definitely had more class than their noisy peers (at least up to and including Exile), an innate class that studio work and application cannot provide..just listen to a track like Sister Morphine or Moonlight Mile or No Expectations or Jigsaw Puzzle or Shine a Light or Rip This Joint..they made pop songs but with pure class...
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    7 nov 11
    the zeppelins, on the other hand, were a bit caught up in the cheesy guitar riffs and pounding drums, consciously and deliberately chosen arrangements to attract the attention of hordes of angry, pimpled teenagers or pseudo-intellectual alternatives who think that zeppelin is music for refined palates... 300 million records sold... forget bruce springsteen... it's highly likely that led zeppelin is one of the most overrated bands in history... remember that more than half of their songs are brutally plagiarized...
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    7 nov 11
    I only like the first album and something from the second by dei led.
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    7 nov 11
    ..I like Pink Floyd up to Meddle included.. then they become a bunch of lame pop singers..
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    7 nov 11
    ..and it makes me incredibly sleepy..
     
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  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    15 nov 11
    Look, apart from the bullshit about the pop of the zepp and the rolling, after last night I'm almost okay with putting Bob at the top. :)
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    15 nov 11
    ..but come on, it's a bit of a provocation.. after all, all art has to be a bit pop (in the sense of popular), otherwise it would only be appreciated by that small number of true connoisseurs... great Bob, I also really enjoyed the concert in Padua last week.. the band hits hard and he rants like a wild beast..
     
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  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    15 nov 11
    Yes, damn it! And then it's rock, rock in the truest sense of the word! I love it, you can never take anything for granted with him, in fact yesterday he didn't even play "blowin in the wind." Did he play it in Padova?
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    15 nov 11
    ..no, "blowin' in the wind" is hardly ever played..bob is not that predictable..he's not Elton John, you know..
     
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  • JohannesUlver
    JohannesUlver
    15 nov 11
    Elton frojhon (which would be "frojohn"...). Here it is, the style and open-mindedness of someone who grew up on a diet of bread and symphonic music...
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    15 nov 11
    ..well not only that, I also grew up on bread and opera music, to tell the truth...well come on, Elton John is a bit ridiculous when he dresses up in all those feathers and pretty little outfits..
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    15 nov 11
    ..that is, not all homosexuals dress up like that..
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    15 nov 11
    "Here it is, the style and open-mindedness of someone who grew up on bread and symphonic music." But then, what does this phrase mean? To compare taste, touch, and musical sensitivity with sexual inclinations... I remind you that an absolute genius like Einstein, a person who should have, according to your reasoning, had a very high style and immense open-mindedness, considered women to be inferior beings... I wouldn’t want you to think that I’m comparing myself to Einstein... far from it... my intellect is worth less than a crumb of that crazy genius.
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    15 nov 11
    ...I translate: one can fully appreciate music while being narrow-minded in other areas (like sexual inclinations)... unfortunately, I am narrow-minded in that field... Einstein, despite being an absolute genius, also had his restrictions in some areas: women.
     
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  • chinaski033
    chinaski033
    15 nov 11
    Yes, but let's not misunderstand, Einstein definitely was! He wasn't constrained in that sense. :)
     
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  • Raphael Vrbinas
    Raphael Vrbinas
    15 nov 11
    Considering that Elton comes out of this altercation a bit poorly... I would say that he was one of the greatest until '76, regardless of his inclinations, which frankly interest me little.
     
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  • dosankos
    dosankos
    15 nov 11
    I don't know Television and I know very little about Cave due to my lack of inclination towards punk. However, the rest is excellent.
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    15 nov 11
    ...anyway, after all, I acknowledge that my joke was unfortunate...
     
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  • Raphael Vrbinas
    Raphael Vrbinas
    15 nov 11
    patience, nothing serious. while I found the inclusion of safe as milk good, which I appreciate more than the more celebrated trout mask replica.
     
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  • Felo
    Felo
    15 nov 11
    Let's say the ranking is perfect, but for personal tastes, I would add Swordfishtrombones and raise Rock Bottom on the podium, but these are just trifles.
     
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  • Raphael Vrbinas
    Raphael Vrbinas
    15 nov 11
    j&r by the Beatles, what do you think?
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    15 nov 11
    I've never been crazy about the Beatles... Abbey Road and Sgt. Pepper's are my favorite albums (within the Beatles discography), the White Album has some great songs (like Yer Blues, Helter Skelter) but it's unfortunately ruined by other tracks that inexplicably ended up on the record and I still can't explain why... Anyway, what I've never liked about the Beatles has always been their "weak" artistic approach. I mean, they touched on various musical styles without executing them in a deeply and truly authentic way. In the early days, they played R&B, but not in the same integralist way as the Stones... then they did psychedelia, but not like the early Pink Floyd, Grateful Dead, or Jefferson Airplane... In short, their music has always been a "wish I could," always a compromise, thought out, wanted, and aimed at releasing music that was palatable for everyone... in short, to make loads of money, money, money... I've always seen them as sellouts, right from the start.
     
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  • Mr. Money87
    Mr. Money87
    15 nov 11
    I completely agree with you j&r about the Beatles.
     
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  • Felo
    Felo
    15 nov 11
    Can I express myself?
     
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  • Mr. Money87
    Mr. Money87
    15 nov 11
    do you have to?!? Just kidding...
     
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  • Raphael Vrbinas
    Raphael Vrbinas
    15 nov 11
    I understand your position. From my side, I can say that the psychedelia of "Tomorrow Never Knows," "Strawberry Fields Forever," or "I Am the Walrus" doesn't strike me as a case of wanting but not being able to. In my opinion, they didn’t just touch on different styles; they truly entered into them, even blending multiple genres within the same song. "A Day in the Life," for example, cannot be categorized into a single genre, assuming it’s even possible to categorize it at all...
    The issue with the White Album is an old one, and I partially agree with you. Including those nugae has marred the perfection of the album, but it contains a good fifteen or more excellent songs (if not masterpieces). If only there were more albums with such a high quality of great songs.
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    15 nov 11
    Sure. If an album like the White Album were released today, it would feel like something from aliens, from another planet... "A Day in the Life," "Strawberry Fields Forever," and "Tomorrow Never Knows" are certainly great songs... but in psychedelia, I consider true masterpieces tracks like "Interstellar Overdrive," "Astronomy Domine," "Voodoo Child (Slight Return)," "Mountains of the Moon," "Spare Chaynge," "A Very Cellular Song," "Beacon from Mars," "In a Gadda Da Vida," "Starship," and other stuff like that...
     
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  • Raphael Vrbinas
    Raphael Vrbinas
    15 nov 11
    that "I consider them true masterpieces" taken literally would be debatable, but interpreting that "true" as "pure," I believe I understand your point. The Beatles' psychedelic songs are not solely purely psychedelic. The same goes for Strawberry; listening to the demo, it certainly doesn't originate purely as psychedelic (I’m talking about the music, not the lyrics). Given this, Strawberry remains a great masterpiece. Besides that, at least you’re not like those who, to seem different from the crowd, criticize the Beatles regardless. You’ve listed what you consider the flaws and preferences within their discography.
     
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  • Raphael Vrbinas
    Raphael Vrbinas
    15 nov 11
    In the meantime, I'm listening to Elgar's cello concerto performed by Du Pré. The one by Saint Saëns, also played by her, impressed me. I didn't know it.
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    15 nov 11
    ..you understood perfectly: "veri" meant "pure." Then clearly strawberry is a great song. The cello concerto and orchestra by Elgar is beautiful..sad, melancholic, deep, overwhelming..one of my favorites alongside Dvořák and Schumann...of Elgar, if you haven't already listened to them, the violin concerto and the "enigma variations" are also very beautiful...the Saint-Saëns number 1 is great too...I honestly don't remember the 2...anyway, Saint-Saëns' violin concertos are outstanding, especially number 2..
     
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  • Raphael Vrbinas
    Raphael Vrbinas
    16 nov 11
    Of Elgar, I only know this great cello concerto. I will do some research on it. After discovering Bach's cello suites, I am very sensitive to everything that concerns the cello.
     
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  • pirata
    pirata
    27 nov 11
    the best by neil young is rust never sleeps
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    1 dec 11
    ..well obviously for a tough guy like you rust never sleeps is the best..in the latest songs there are some fantastic flashy guitars..anyway the record is truly superb, everything.
     
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  • pirata
    pirata
    19 dec 11
    Yes, the album is beautiful, everything, even those acoustic tracks, Pocahontas is a great piece.
     
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  • pirata
    pirata
    18 feb 12
    Yes, but Sticky Fingers is superior to ANY Dylan, Waits, or Van Morrison album. Come on, at least put the Rolling Stones first. I'm not saying you should include those who play hard rock, but you've got a podium that's too "soft" to be a rock ranking; at least you have to admit that.
     
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  • j&r
    j&r
    18 feb 12
    Yes, it's true, I admit it, the podium is soft but of great quality... Blood on the Tracks, Rain Dogs, Astral Weeks... Anyway, in the rankings, there's Jimi Hendrix and The Who that rock, plus the first Patti...
     
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  • Karter4
    Karter4
    26 sep 12
    It's a shame, because there are so many great artists with numerous iconic albums, all definitely superior to just as many famous names, and I’ll be the first to admit it.
     
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  • Matteo Tarchi
    Matteo Tarchi
    26 sep 12
    for example, I could see the Pop Group by Why fitting in well here
     
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    • ProgRock
      26 sep 12
      Even Y of the Pop Group. :)
    • hjhhjij
      6 jan 13
      Damn, it's true. Why is "Y."
  • pana
    pana
    5 jan 13
    No complaints. You’re heavily critiqued, but here I see only great works (except for a couple of artists I don't like). For such a small number, there’s an excellent mix of genres.
     
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    • j&r
      6 jan 13
      few but good... I'm happy to be heavily criticized, I'm not going unnoticed ;)
    • hjhhjij
      6 jan 13
      He will be heavily criticized, but I find him charming. And besides, he is my guide in the world of classical music.
    • j&r
      6 jan 13
      Indeed! :) ...nice is the very first time someone tells me that ;)
    • hjhhjij
      6 jan 13
      :) You have great tastes, in my opinion, even in rock. Certainly much narrower than mine, but your field is classical music; once that's understood, you're likable :) and if someone still falls for your provocations, that's their problem.
    • hjhhjij
      6 jan 13
      And then in this ranking there are ALL my favorites, ALL of them, except for Genesis. Tom Waits, Velvet, especially TIM BUCKLEY. And so on.
    • pana
      6 jan 13
      Well, for me also Zappa.
    • pana
      6 jan 13
      And the Floyd.
    • hjhhjij
      6 jan 13
      Sure, me too, but for heaven's sake, let's not get formal :)
  • j&r
    j&r
    6 jan 13
    ...well said hj...everything right, well said! ;)
     
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    • hjhhjij
      6 jan 13
      TIM BUCKLEY. Nothing, I wanted to emphasize that.
    • j&r
      6 jan 13
      I understand, I understand :)... records like Lorca are not easily forgotten..
  • Don_Pollo
    Don_Pollo
    6 jan 13
    For Young, nothing Tonight's The Night? Over time it has perhaps become my favorite (even above On The Beach)...
     
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    • hjhhjij
      6 jan 13
      What a fight to the last drop of blood. Anyway, I had no doubt it had become your favorite. The darkest record by Young (much darker than the beach), one of the darkest in rock history, is basically proto-slowcore.
    • j&r
      6 jan 13
      You're right, I forgot, I'll add it right away.
  • tonysoprano
    tonysoprano
    20 jul 16
    But what happened to the various progressive groups/albums that used to be in your rankings?
     
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    • j&r
      20 jul 16
      all cut
    • tonysoprano
      20 jul 16
      how come?
    • j&r
      20 jul 16
      there are moments when progressive rock makes me feel nauseous... while at other times I accept it...
    • tonysoprano
      20 jul 16
      I notice that discussions often arise with you regarding the prog. Why doesn’t it captivate you 100%?
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