JohannesUlver

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Best actor of the eighties
Dal 1980 ad oggi. MANCANO NEL DATABASE: Gene Hackman, Judd Nelson, Robert Carlyle, William Hurt, Denzel Washington, Christian Slater, Carlo Delle Piane e molti altri...
<b>Jeff Bridges</b>

1

Jeff Bridges

La leggenda del Re Pescatore, Crazy Heart, Il grande Lebowski, American Heart
<b>Dustin Hoffman</b>

2

Dustin Hoffman

Tootsie, Rain Man, Sesso e Potere, Eroe per caso, Sleepers
<b>Al Pacino</b>

3

Al Pacino

Scarface, Scent of woman, Paura d'amare, Riccardo III
<b>Jack Nicholson</b>

4

Jack Nicholson

Shining, Voglia di tenerezza, Qualcosa è cambiato, A proposito di Schmidt
<b>Harvey Keitel</b>

5

Harvey Keitel

Le iene, Pulp Fiction, Smoke, Blue in the face
<b>Edward Furlong</b>

6

Edward Furlong

American Heart, American History X, Animal Factory, Detroit Rock City
<b>Edward Norton</b>

7

Edward Norton

Schegge di paura, Larry Flint, American History X, Fight Club, Tentazioni d'amore, La 25a ora
<b>River Phoenix</b>

8

River Phoenix

Stand by me, Belli e dannati
<b>Roberto Benigni</b>

9

Roberto Benigni

Down by law, Taxisti di notte, Coffee and cigarrettes, Non ci resta che piangere, La voce della Luna, La vita è bella
<b>Robin Williams</b>

10

Robin Williams

Good Morning Vietnam, L'attimo fuggente, La leggenda del Re Pescatore, Piume di struzzo, Jack, Good Will Hunting
<b>Clint Eastwood</b>

11

Clint Eastwood

Heartbreak Ridge, The Bridges of Madison County, Gran Torino
<b>Bill Murray</b>

12

Bill Murray

Lost in traslation, A broken flowers
<b>Ewan McGregor</b>

13

Ewan McGregor

Trainspotting, Big Fish
<b>Jim Carrey</b>

14

Jim Carrey

The Thruman Show, Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind, The Majestic
<b>Tom Hanks</b>

15

Tom Hanks

Forrest Gump, Philadelphia
<b>Sean Penn</b>

16

Sean Penn

Casualties Of War, We're No Angels, I Am Sam, Mystic River, 21 Grams,
<b>Brad Pitt</b>

17

Brad Pitt

Johnny Suede, Intervista col vampiro, L'esercito delle 12 scimmie, Fight Club, Sleepers, Snatch
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  • j&r
    j&r
    24 apr 11
    ...carefully absent of niro...indeed the performances in taxi driver, raging bull, once upon a time in America, the deer hunter, mean streets, the untouchables, 1900 what do you want them to be...
     
  • j&r
    j&r
    24 apr 11
    ..well maybe I included some films from the seventies (taxi driver, cacciatore, mean streets)
     
  • JohannesUlver
    JohannesUlver
    26 apr 11
    Yes, you included some movies from the '70s. Read more carefully before jumping in with your hypercriticism.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    23 jul 11
    Yes, however, the absence of De Niro is quite significant (Raging Bull, King of Comedy, Once Upon a Time in America, Brazil, Mission, Goodfellas, Cape Fear, Casino, Heat, Sleepers). For the rest, it's nice, of course, it depends on personal taste.
     
  • JohannesUlver
    JohannesUlver
    24 jul 11
    I don't know, personally I perceive De Niro as more tied to '70s cinema, perhaps mistakenly. It's also true that his decent performances in the '80s are unfortunately offset by the many colorless, pointless, and sometimes even annoying films he participated in afterward. It's no coincidence that the ranking is "from 1980 to today." And then there's "Goodfellas" (which I hate), "Casino" (which I appreciate a lot)... and enough with this mafia! I've never been able to stand "Brazil." Anyway, thanks for your comment. Until next time ;)
     
  • JohannesUlver
    JohannesUlver
    8 nov 12
    Let’s be clear, many agree on this: De Niro is literally fantastic in "Raging Bull," "King of Comedy," "Cape Fear," "Once Upon a Time in America," "The Mission," "We’re No Angels," "Awakenings," "Sleepers"... No doubt about it, he’s an immense actor.
     
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      Yes, but "Goodfellas" cannot be hated, nor can Brazil, it's really against the law :D No, I'm just joking. But on one thing I am serious: what does "enough with this mafia" mean? Bob has played a gangster mafioso very few times if we look at all his films (until 1997, then he became a caricature).
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    8 nov 12
    For example, I don't like him at all in things like Non siamo angeli, one of his few flops from those years. For everything else, I obviously agree.
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    8 nov 12
    Roberto Benigni: Daunbailò. Oh yes, oh yes, oh yes :) In Night Taxi he’s full of energy and very funny, but he doesn’t drive me crazy. I found the episodes in L.A. (strepitoZa-hilarious Ryder) and especially New York much more hilarious, making me double over with laughter every single time.
     
  • Alcest.
    Alcest.
    8 nov 12
    You genius of a farinelli j&r, you could have included Clark Gable for his magnificent performance in Gone with the Wind in the '80s! Ah ah ah ah
     
  • Alcest.
    Alcest.
    8 nov 12
    yes, yes Elton hjhhjij, let’s also put Vivien Leigh in the '80s. Stop writing bullshit to self-celebrate your idiocy and you’re happy....
     
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      Oh come on, but this way Ettì it’s no fun. If you’re spouting nonsense with the clear intention to do so, come on. It’s your job to break balls (besides calling home) but try to do it with a bit of originality. What the hell does Vivien Leigh have to do with it :D I didn’t know De Niro was an actor from the '30s-'40s, I thought he had made films in the '80s (too), instead.
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      Oh, thank goodness that good Johannes understands me...Uff.
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      Of course, I've only mentioned De Niro films from the '80s and '90s in my previous comment. But you're right. Vivien Leigh fits in; she made a lot of films in the '80s, like Wind with Via part XXXth. And then there's the legendary Driu Berrimor, star of the film with Alcest as the protagonist.
    • Alcest.
      8 nov 12
      Come on, stop honking all the time. After all, you’re funnier when you at least read the title. Johannes? I think you’re contagious, considering some of the movies you’ve shared.
    • March Horses
      8 nov 12
      Alcest, just stop it. 1) my friend hjhhjiji is off-limits (only I can touch him <3)... 2) someone with your nickname should be picking flowers on some little hill in the champagne française instead of being a pain in the ass in this dump.
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      Quack, quack :D Oh my God Ettì, your messages make no logical sense anymore, you're losing touch with the earthly language, damn! :D You are immense. March, actually he is Ettì, he’s not from this planet, he’s a higher mind (oh my God, not really) and needs to be understood, come on XD
    • Alcest.
      8 nov 12
      "Alcest." read carefully, please. It’s about Alcestis. Is it possible that no one knows Euripides? Where is that cultured (in fault) j&r? Is he listening to Spristin?
    • March Horses
      8 nov 12
      Well, "that cultured (in the wrong)" deserves a round of applause.
    • progg_nait94
      8 nov 12
      Damn, not even my sister is that bitter. How much estrogen do you have?
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      She hasn't been able to call home for thirty years, so let's understand if she's a bit annoyed, right? March, you’ve missed out on many of her nuggets of wisdom XD
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      I know Euripides. He recited verses to me while I was building the spaceship using the 10,000 tools that you would later play. I killed him with headbutts.
    • March Horses
      8 nov 12
      Greetings 94th night knight, Alcest(.) could be Pink Floyd, and it's time for their comeback.
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      Yes, the overcultured version (so to speak, eh). In reality, it's the rough draft of Silvaplana, while Pinco is locked away in his review (perhaps due to a curse from Marc Bolan).
    • March Horses
      8 nov 12
      Exactly, closed up in his review with the T.Rex roaring in his ears from who knows where, for eternity. I don’t envy him at all.
    • Alcest.
      8 nov 12
      Elton, did you go overboard with the crack or did you watch your 11,333,777th movie after listening to your 23,555,789th CD?
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      He asked for it. Bolan got pissed off when he called him underground. Having a Tyrannosaurus in your ears can't be pleasant, damn it. Poor guy, he doesn’t deserve that.
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      I overdid it with the crack. You’re not from the anti-drug agency, are you Ettì?
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      But you're becoming more and more mundane, even in your provocations. Ugh.
    • Alcest.
      8 nov 12
      What does Bojan have to do with it? We’re not at San Siro. And Traorè? Emanuelson?
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      Ahahahahahahaha, even Bojan goes overboard with the crack, what can I say :D Totally surreal comment, great Ettì. Huge (and I'm sincere, just so you know).
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      Cocorito goes to bed, goodbye Al, see you later.
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    8 nov 12
    "Come on, stop honking all the time. After all, you’re even funnier when you at least read the title." I always say it, you are superior. You make everyone laugh at any moment :D
     
    • Alcest.
      8 nov 12
      parrot Elton
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      The parrot doesn’t squawk, Ettì, you’re not familiar with earthly creatures, are you? It shows. P.S.: you're running out of creativity, please find it again; the elevator one last time wasn’t bad.
    • Alcest.
      8 nov 12
      but don’t tell me!
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      Is that all?
    • Alcest.
      8 nov 12
      Can't you get there by yourself? It's used for peeing in, you know...
    • March Horses
      8 nov 12
      you're losing your touch, Euripides. It reminds me so much of Monkey Island in the insult contests.
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      The elevator? What a mess. Ettì, for your bodily functions there's the bathroom. BATHROOM. The elevator serves another purpose. Learn the earthly customs, damn it.
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      "you’re losing your touch, Euripides" Honestly, you never had it to begin with. The glory days are gone (sigh).
    • Alcest.
      8 nov 12
      parrots a plenty now Elton? Where do you catch catch. Now do the sound of the Dead Horses?
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      They call me cocorito, baby. And you keep getting less and less inspired. Ouch, ouch space friend.
    • March Horses
      8 nov 12
      I'm going to sleep, but first I'm going to the bathroom.
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      Yeah, guys, I'm going too. Great discussion. Hi Ettì, we'll catch up (to stay on the parrot theme).
    • Alcest.
      8 nov 12
      And what did the parrot serve you then? Be careful not to pee in the fridge.
    • hjhhjij
      8 nov 12
      You've found your inspiration. The last one really made me laugh :D Goodnight Alcest ;)
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    8 nov 12
    March's entire message is making me chuckle quite a bit :)
     
  • JohannesUlver
    JohannesUlver
    10 nov 12
    Here we talk about excellent performances, not necessarily great films. Many movies mentioned in this ranking certainly can't be defined as masterpieces, but the performances of the cited actors are outstanding. To clarify my point of view, still talking about De Niro (whom I might as well include in the list ;)), it's logical that, for example, between "Casino" and "We're No Angels," the more valid film is clearly the former, but for the actor's performance, I prefer the latter. What does the character of Asso add to others already portrayed by De Niro? It’s true that he hasn’t played the mafioso that much, but the mafia pops up a thousand times, embodied by other characters, in many of his films, and honestly, that bores me a bit. Well, considering he’s been working with Scorsese for a lifetime... great director, of course, but he should work at the D.I.A.;). A big hello hjhhjij. I enjoy discussing with you; you are among the few mentally stable ones on the site :)
     
    • mild
      11 nov 12
      One often forgets De Niro's "Mission," one of his best performances, a film from 1986. In a good ranking, I would include Dustin Hoffman's "Midnight Cowboy," stellar in that film.
    • hjhhjij
      11 nov 12
      Midnight Cowboy, however, is from 1969; here we are talking about the '80s. In my opinion, Mission is saved precisely by the strong performances of Irons and De Niro. Anyway, I think Willem Dafoe and Jeremy Irons would fit in well here.
    • mild
      11 nov 12
      I didn't even check what year it was made; I was convinced it was from the eighties. Anyway, it's the best performance by Dustin, in my opinion. Christian Bale in "L'uomo senza sonno" is also worth mentioning when it comes to great performances.
    • hjhhjij
      11 nov 12
      Well, Midnight Cowboy is one of the jewels of New Hollywood, alongside films like Panic in Needle Park and Mean Streets (the latter being extraordinary). Dustin Hoffman in that film is outstanding.
    • mild
      11 nov 12
      I fully agree.
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    10 nov 12
    Surely Scorsese knows that environment well or poorly (just look at the practically autobiographical Mean Streets), so these are themes that recur in many of his films (he also did Taxi Driver, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, and even The Age of Innocence). Regarding the performances, I understand what you mean, and I think the "de gustibus" issue applies here as well. For example, I clearly prefer De Niro in Casino, even though the character doesn’t add anything new to his career (after all, he’s a character that really existed, like James Burke/Conway or La Motta).
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    10 nov 12
    Then surely De Niro is a symbol of the maladjusted, lonely, psychopathic characters or those on the edge of legality (Johnny Boy in Mean Streets), it's his trademark, but for me, it works perfectly. For example, Al Pacino, another giant, has been much less versatile in his career (he's indeed played cop-gangster-gangster-cop many times), although he is an immense interpreter. Then why can't you stand Goodfellas? I mean, with all the gangster movies, more or less the same as each other (especially those post-Goodfellas, by the way), why can't you appreciate one of the most original and revolutionary? I respect this opinion, but I admit I'm curious about the reason :)
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    10 nov 12
    Ah, thanks for the mentally stable, but I think you're overestimating me: no one on debaser is mentally stable. Not me, and not you :D
     
  • hjhhjij
    hjhhjij
    10 nov 12
    I hope you didn't miss the delirious exchange of nonsense up there. Sorry it happened in your ranking, but Ettì is always on edge, they never respond to him, from home :D
     
  • geenoo .
    geenoo .
    9 dec 14
    Oh.. you still haven't put De Niro in?? I'm not saying anything, but... you include River Phoenix and Brad Pitt (!!) and not De Niro??? Come on... put him in.
     
  • geenoo .
    geenoo .
    9 dec 14
    Then, now that you make me think about it... if the ranking is "from 1980 to today" as you say... Do we throw DiCaprio in the trash? And the whole action-muscles series? Stallone-Schwarzenegger-Willis-Gibs on-H. Ford????? S. Jackson? M. Douglas??? Kevin Bacon, Sean Penn?? Clint! Cliiiint????
     
  • JohannesUlver
    JohannesUlver
    19 dec 14
    Very valid observation: Eastwood and Penn are missing. Let's fix that right away.
     
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