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not aligned? but you’re the most banal conformist I’ve ever heard. you repeat word for word the "liberal" gospel so trendy in Italy now and forever. far from being non-aligned. you are the voice of the master, the silent majority, the useless idiot, the shopkeeper around the corner who charges me five euros a kilo for green beans, the obnoxious little cop who mooches coffees at the bars, the resentful old man who reads Libero and blames immigrants but can't even pull down his pants to take a piss by himself; there you are, the image of Italy. ignorant, arrogant, and stupid. wasn’t it in the Gazzetta dello Sport?

Poor thing. You went to get your aunt's Motta encyclopedia to jot down a couple of names. You don't even know what it means to be reformist. Yet it seems to me that De Filippi talked about it, but maybe you missed the episode. As for the Resistance, I certainly haven't denied its value; I did say, however, that the constitution was the result of a compromise between the reformist left and the power right, and so it was. In fact, the Resistance was betrayed by the policy of national reconciliation (but I've already said this and you've already forgotten it) that led to the drafting of the constitution. The "danger" of a red revolution in Italy at the end of the war (which wouldn't have pleased the power structures, whether they were right or reformist left) was real, and a holy alliance of all the "moderate" components (and this obviously includes the church and the Atlantic alliance) was necessary to avert it. This situation gave birth to our dearly beloved republic, which is actually not based at all on the much-touted values of the Resistance, but on the far more prosaic values of bourgeois hegemony, with all the ecclesiastical and crypto-fascist trappings. Of course, these things, however, Mengacci won't tell you; better to stick with Aunt Motta.

Spike, your superficiality is disarming. And you're also a bit ignorant. All this talk about reading books and studying communism, only to come out with cosmic banalities and great nonsense makes me think that, assuming it's true that you read, you really don't understand. What does Bertinotti have to do with it? Of course I don't like him. And the constitution? It was the result of a counter-revolutionary agreement between the leftist reformist forces and the ruling right. But it's not like these are great new revelations, only you, in Italy, don't know these things. And what do the gulags have to do with it? You're the one with the obsession about the USSR. You see, you just don't get it. According to you, someone on the left must necessarily be pro-Soviet. Let me tell you something, you can be leftist and anti-totalitarian. But you don't understand this because Amadeus told you it isn't true, huh, admit it. It hurts me to read what you write because I realize the devastating damage of years of television. You don't have a shred of an idea, you can't contextualize an argument, you have no historical reference point. You babble about how much you read and study, but in the end, you make a pitiful impression, and I feel a bit sorry for you because discussing with someone like you devalues me as well.

But... the story of Catholic partisans is somewhat overrated. In reality, the ecclesiastical hierarchies, as is normal, have never hidden their Nazi-fascist sympathies, quite the opposite. Even at the end of the war, a large number of Nazi criminals fled to South America thanks to the support of the clergy, especially from Genoa and Milan (the infamous "Operation Odessa") and the cover of the usual CIA. This makes it a bit difficult to reconcile the words "Catholic" and "partisan." Perhaps it would be better and more accurate to talk about believing partisans. You see, Spike, other news that you have never found in "Il Monello."

Did you know that after World War II Europe was divided into two spheres of influence, one under American hegemony (NATO) and the other under Soviet control? Well, in Italy, the situation after the war was extremely uncertain due to the strong presence of red partisans, the true architects of liberation (and for a long time it remained that way, in fact the PCI was the largest communist party in the world in a Western country, at one point it was even the first party in Italy with Berlinguer) and for this reason the Americans had to intervene massively - both economically with the Marshall Plan and militarily - to secure their hegemony. But, I repeat, they don’t tell you these things on Zelig, and in the end, you believe that reality stops there.

spike, spike, poor little one. you see what the story is for you; communists against everyone. I am not a communist, I am further to the left if you want to know, if it's that important for you to "classify". History, my dear, I know it, I don't need to reheat the television nonsense to form an opinion, you know? You show yourself to be a friendly and harmless little bourgeois, all mannered anti-communism (but in the end of communism you only know what you've heard in Mike Bongiorno's quizzes) and clichés. By shooting off stupid things randomly, you even risk hitting the mark. For example, when you say that the BR were infiltrated by the services. You were the only one who talked about the USSR. I am against totalitarian states, and indeed against states tout court, since every state is oppressive by definition, but here we're going into a bit too bold discussions. And they never talked to you about smiles and TV songs.

and that the attempted fascist coup plotted by Junio Borghese was supported by the CIA? and that the "national reconciliation" following World War II, wanted by the DC and PCI, both guilty, and strongly sponsored by the American government, allowed a large number of fascist criminals to get away with it (only to reappear in the Italian political scene, poor innocent souls)? really, you're not aware that Gladio, deviated services, right-wing extremism, P2, and all that kind of crap were not only infiltrated but financed by American services? nice history, you are...

spike, don't you think that the "allied" forces intervened, albeit late, in Italy precisely to prevent the "red" partisans, who were the overwhelming majority, from taking power after the now inevitable fall of the fascist regime? Don't you realize that the Americans who landed in southern Italy allied with the mafia to create a barrier against the revolutionary left? When do you think the mingling of "moderate" politicians and mafiosi began? And you're the one who knows history. Congratulations. And let me clarify that I am NOT a communist, but my God, there’s a limit to everything.

Fascistello fascistello - you've got shit in your brain - you don't comprehend reality - and instinctively you defend yourself - fear screws you over - and the absence of culture - I hope that one day you long for - you'll get tired of living on your knees.

In the end, though, the ignorant ones like Spike pay the price because they live a miserable life. A small, tiny life made up of bitterness and clichés. They are servants, and they live as such. If that suits them, then everyone is happy.