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Indeed, I also believe that Gomorra is a useful book, especially for the people of Campania; it serves to remind us of how much crap we have to swallow thanks to the camorristi...

Well, you said that the book is pointless, so it's useless; I listed the reasons why I don't believe that's true at all... as for the character Saviano, I can tolerate him like this, it's useful for him to remain if he continues to remind people of uncomfortable truths, if he takes people by the balls and encourages them to react, like in his open letter to Campania.

I read the book; stylistically, I don't like it either, but I consider it an essay and I read it as such, so we agree on that... what I don’t share is talking about its uselessness: 1) first of all, all the media frenzy (whether you like the method or not, I don’t, but that doesn’t matter…) makes life harder for various camorristi and bullshit artists, who have entrenched themselves and strengthened in indifference and silence; 2) speaking out and recounting reality gives others more courage to do the same and to rebel, I say this from personal experience; 3) even just the debate on the camorra issue is, in my opinion, something extremely useful. I thought all these points were obvious, emphasizing them seems like an insult to an intelligent person... clarification for clarification, I couldn’t care less about Veltroni.

you really say a lot of crap, katharsys...

Alright, a couple of clarifications, Dan... 1) I'm not a Beatles fanatic at all; my opinion on Beatles stuff isn't very far from yours. 2) The silly songs, even if they’re stupid, sometimes communicate more to me than the music that, objectively (more or less...), deserves a higher value: that’s why, if I had to choose, I would toss krautrock overboard instead of northern soul. Luckily, I'm not forced to ;)

Dan, why are you so against pop songs? Let's temporarily free ourselves from the "monster" of the Beatles that always tends to distort the discussion in this case. I'll mention another songwriter from that era, who was belittled by those waving their commitment (and would become, in many cases, a baby boomer in the 80s...): Brian Wilson. The lyrics of Pet Sounds can be considered somewhat trivial (in reality, they should be 'read' like the lyrics of the soul songs of the time, in my opinion), and his involvement in the chaotic scene of the time was virtually nonexistent, except for the trips he probably took; however, the quality of his pop songs is, today (also according to many 'avant-gardists,' like David Thomas of Pere Ubu), considered to be of the highest level. Not the innovation, nor the explicit socio-political themes, but the music. In this limited area, I find the Beatles' pop songs often extraordinary: Revolver has some atrocities but, for example, even a trivial piece like 'I Want to Tell You' has, to my ears, significant value, thanks to Harrison's voice and that dissonant piano phrase. That they were opportunists is very likely! But, even here, in their opportunism, they often foresaw more than many "dissidents" (see the lyrics of 'Revolution'). Aloha.

I almost forgot... just for that, the vote.

Since I'm downloading the albums I had on cassette when I was a kid, I was fortunate to have "Schizzechea" available... I immediately jumped to the core, avoiding the first part that I remembered as decent, namely the duo "canzona nova" and "cry": the former has that chorus "putessem' cantàààà, na canzona nova, doje pummarole, e ghiesc' o solllll" with a faux-ethnic arrangement and turbo-queer that slides into the monster "cry" - "lissen tu, lissen tu... p'cchè nun me sent' cchiù e caaaantàààà... samtaiiim.... CRRAAAAIIIIII"... and it's already evening! Essential.

@ cptgaio: I understand what you mean; fatalistic extremism is an ancient flaw that we carry with us... however, try to think of a provincial place, with all its flaws, that also bears the ugliness of the worst urban ghettos; would you condemn someone who wants to escape? I left too (and I’m from Capua, not the 67...) and I came back only due to force majeure - in short, I’m not exactly a great person either. The issue of "defeating": being primarily a deep cultural problem, for me, it's almost senseless to talk about "defeating", a bit like saying "let's eliminate all wars in the world"; we can do something, perhaps more than others here, but we must also understand all the limits, difficulties, and various challenges involved (by the way, are you sure your house wasn't built by a company tied to the Casalesi? ;))

In short, Turkish is absolutely right; after all, he is the boss! SPAMMME