Matt7

wow..easy is losing his touch....! maybe I'm not the only one who has noticed that easy, having no defenses left, DEFENDS himself by attacking not the music but the people, and this does not do him much honor.

Zuckina, for the drummer I thought you were referring to Grohol. That’s all, I misunderstood and I don’t think that for simply having misunderstood I can be considered ignorant… and I repeat: one thing is to say that something is beautiful, another is to say that it is of quality. You might like System of a Down or Limp Bizkit, and for you, that will be beautiful music, but it's not quality music. The little story that Mario cited explains my thoughts better, and I thank him for writing it. And then, the composition as you say is not what Corgan did either with the Smashing, nor with Zwan or as a solo artist; that is pure music to sell and writing certain things is really easy… composing is something that goes beyond your and my capabilities. Have you ever seen the programs of composition faculties in conservatories? If not, then check them out and reconsider the meaning of Composition.

But the way you think, to me, is something that kills music... at this point, you denigrate any band that doesn’t do something new (which has already been said)... at this point, no band will ever be good... also because you’ll look for some kind of renewal in the same band, and when you don’t find it, you’ll never appreciate anything. Anyway... long live diversity and to hell with this discussion because, as you can see, it always leads to the same conclusions!

Mario... you managed to express my thoughts better than I could.

but it's not arrogance... it's the musical genre they perform that demands this kind of execution...

Let’s say we are two "extremists"!

Indeed...there's music and music...and then the Genesis had pretty good knowledge...what do you think?

It's one thing to go on for 10 minutes, but not by chance... the songs of DT follow very precise melodic-arminic patterns... and these time changes are definitely not random... absolutely not! It takes skill to put together and execute certain things.

I am pleased to see that you continue to defend the fugazi thesis, I the dt.. and where will we end up? Will we ever reach a point of agreement??????

In general yes..it also applies to dt..not all the songs they’ve written are super technical, not even technical, but they are made in a qualitatively perfect way.