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"Alright Ajeje, so if for you progress is something different from culture, we can just abandon the discussion since you don't have the basis to discuss these topics": as it was to be demonstrated, this equation you create, equating economic dominance with cultural dominance is really crude, cut with an axe, "bar talk," as I said in the first post, and if you don't understand that, I'm sorry. I was hoping for a rebuttal to what I thought was an easy provocation on my part, instead you really think that way. I didn't call you ignorant, and unlike you, I don't like insults; they don't amuse me. However, it irritates me to hear such clichés, certain easy reasoning that is equivalent to that of Islamic fundamentalists. I called you a populist and presumptuous based on what you wrote; an insult is instead a gratuitous thing. You, on the other hand, insulted because your comments about me are not based on anything: "ajeje, if you want to participate in these discussions, study first, because if you are going to open your mouth just to say nonsense, you will only look like an idiot... which you evidently are." This at my house is a stadium insult. So, just to clarify for a moment. I call you presumptuous because you assume that the history of philosophy has revolved around Christianity (or Europe) and you are unaware of the existence of equally significant philosophers from the Muslim world. I label you as populist because you lack subtlety in your reasoning, with the disgusting equation mentioned above, as if culture were a matter of money, as if culture and progress coincided with scientific progress. With such an equation, entire civilizations with profound thought become for you automatically "boors." Clearly, I am against (how tiresome it is to have to always explain) "women in burqas," infibulation (even though it is not only practiced in the Muslim world), and fundamentalism. If you had read my post, you would have understood that I am against many things in our supposedly advanced and "liberal" world. You are neither Enlightenment nor rational, because you look at things from only one side: read something by Galimberti who has written extensively on the clash of civilizations, on our presumed progress, from time to time. Try to look at things from a detached perspective; itâs not âgood guys against bad guys,â itâs not rich against poor (how can you write words like this, so carelessly: poor). You won't vote for the League, but only the League makes such drastic arguments in the political world. Fini (National Alliance, not exactly what I vote for) is much closer to my positions than to your particularly unrefined extremism, and this lack of subtlety is also evident in your language like a dockworker (this is not an insult, itâs a statement). Culture is not economy; itâs something nobler, and the culture of the Islamic world is certainly not represented by the extremism of fundamentalists, but by thinkers whose existence you simply ignore. I ignore many as well; from there to draw simplistic conclusions, thatâs another thing: I hope that in the intelligentsia called to represent us, Bush and his Manichaeanism never figure. Unfortunately, thatâs what the fundamentalists believe, just as you, unfortunately, believe the opposite: we have a great culture, they are boors. We are rich, they are all poor. Ah, my nickname is just a nickname; you won't really cling to that, tell me you won't...
