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No, we’re not doing this, Oleeinar. I’ll hit you and that’s it. I’ll leave you there and walk away. Do you understand? If you want to feel this thrill, I’m here for you. I know you’re not used to street people. If you want, I can give you all the punches you can take, but after that, no blowjobs, you just take the punches, okay? That’s how it works. What do you say?

So Jurix... I want to finish the discussion. If someone becomes a widow, there will be some damn uncle, cousin, relative, or friend to take care of that kid, right? Oh. If my son wants to be a dancer (I don’t have a son because I’m not married, and I’m also 26), that's fine, but he needs to show me that it's a serious thing that he can live off of—it's not like he gets bored later and says no, I want to work, and then he can't do anything, you got it? We need to encourage our children's passions while also keeping their feet on the ground. This doesn’t mean beating them up, of course; my father hit me, but not to the point of really hurting me. Many great artists had parents who didn’t approve, but their desire to do that thing was so strong that they made it. Then if my son wants to be a dancer or a carpenter, I’m fine with it, but he has to WORK, though—it’s better to be a good dancer than a bad carpenter. When I told my mother I was doing boxing to fight, she wasn’t exactly thrilled, but she let me do it because she understood I had found something beautiful that I liked doing. Eh. That’s enough now, come on. What the hell are we talking about?

Well, even in the present as far as I’m concerned. There’s a Roman saying that goes, “When you were up in the trees, we were already gay”... to say that we are more advanced with civilization; and homosexuality is a sign of a "modern" and advanced civilization. Are you starting to understand now? I’m happy with a woman, not with a man doing those things. This is just my opinion; and come on, it’s Sunday, a little time at the computer talking about these things is fine, right?

Look, I've got a nice sausage here, you know.

Exactly Jurix, you are strange. The son must be with the father after a certain age, or at least among men, to work. The mother is "only" there to raise him in the early years; after that, the education is the father's responsibility. If the father can't provide that, then there are problems.

Kosmo, I don't think you'd mind coming to bed with me, I think. What do you say? :-)

So Nes... I don't threaten, I protect myself. You never underestimate your opponent; he said he's coming to Rome, so the implicit threat came from him, even if he meant something else. I replied that I'm in, regardless. But to fight, not to make love. Do you understand? I don’t know if you’ve ever fought someone, that person says “stay calm or I’ll beat you up,” you end up fighting, the one who fights leaves, the one who gets punched stays there. Now let's see what Oleeinar responds. You have to do it this way, otherwise people won't respect you, you know? They don't think you're serious. I've been fighting for a lifetime; there won’t be any problems with Ole if I’ve understood the guy. But hey, no police reports, you got it? Because the rats do that. Yeah, they do, they do.

Kosmo, your logic seems a bit confusing to me as well as unsuccessful. My personal philosophy is men - each on their own path, everyone is free - working together - when you're tired, go to bed - with a woman. What do you say? (Nun ce sto a provà co te eh, I'm just saying if you like the conversation). :-)

No no Lupin, it's him who said he's coming to Rome. I'm in Rome, if someone wants to see me, just make an appointment, I'll check my schedule and see if it's possible. :-) But...... If you hold onto them, don't come complaining after, got it? That's it.

Closed the conversation with Oleeinar. Anyway, Axel was right; that gay guy I had in class was an only child, his father was a teacher at the high school and his mother was a finance officer, I’m not joking. Other gay people I’ve known also had troubled families, and they particularly had issues with their mothers, or with an absent or weak father. A weak or absent father, and a protective or overly strict mother. Pasolini himself, also gay, had problems with his father, and this is shown in the initial scenes of Oedipus Rex that have an autobiographical backdrop.