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Look, there definitely were persecutions; in fact, it's certain that there were (well documented), but there was also the national-popular and Catholic aspect, so much so that Wojtyla, in '63 (I checked), was ordained archbishop of Krakow. Now, I don't believe that Roman Christians had the opportunity to ordain archbishops. The cult, in real socialism, was certainly opposed, but where they could not annihilate it, they tolerated it, and coincidentally, the states that contributed to the fall were those that were not culturally aligned... and by culturally, I don't just mean the religious aspect, but culturally in the sense of all faces. Moreover, in my opinion, in politics, there are no coincidences, and ordaining a Polish pope who, coincidentally, will turn out to be a fierce and effective enemy of the USSR is certainly quite a coincidence.

Hehe, do you really think they put Wojtyla there by chance? Or rather, do you think that in a country where there isn't even a soccer field, they could ever have the strongest soccer player in the world? I don’t think so. They could have been Christians if, like the Roman Christians, they practiced their faith in secret, but in Poland, despite having bombed almost all the churches at the beginning of the regime, the thing was quite widespread, certainly not at a Christian level, but much more popularly accepted. In fact, totally, as all the internal conflicts within Real Socialism were produced by those states that couldn't culturally subjugate. Just try talking about the Russians with a Pole and see the love words that come out. With this, I've said it all. Oh, some time ago a Neapolitan group was singing a song with a chorus that said "papa polacco, sai di pacco".

But indeed, they have experience in this. The Lateran Pacts were not made with the Italian Christian church (which semantically means nothing, in fact), but with the Italian Catholic church.

Oh Fallen, this is a matter of semantics. Christianity is an individual feeling, the individual in front of Christ. Catholicism is the massified idea of a vision of Christ. Now, if we talk about the individual Polish person, we can certainly say that they are Christian, of course. One doesn't know all the Poles. But when we talk about Poland, as a whole, you cannot say Christian, but Catholic.

Here, "the same democracy seems to me like a huge utopia." Finally, someone says it. We have 130 comments branding Marxism as utopian based on what socialist states have done, yet no one notices that we live in a world that claims to be democratic but is based on screwing over those who live in the wrong part of the world and thriving off someone else's blood. Well done, Alexander, you make me feel at ease as I go to eat.

Fallen, do you not understand or are you pretending not to? I didn’t say that such a distinction doesn’t exist. I said, since we were talking about "Christianity" and I was mentioning states where the worship had survived state atheism, one could not speak of "Christianity," but rather "Catholicism." Therefore, since I was moving from "Christianity" to "Catholicism," I was telling you not to cling to that obvious difference, as it would be ridiculous—and in fact you did and you are still doing it. Is it clear to you now, or do you want me to draw you a picture, scan it, and send it to you via email? The fact is that this difference between "Catholicism" and "Christianity" says a lot about how foolish it is to rely on those who believe. Those who believe don’t need a God; they just need a bit of ethics. One doesn’t kill because otherwise Jesus cries, whether it's the poor Jesus or the Jesus of those who say, "no condom, I just need a bit of lubricant." And I think that’s what Isis was trying to tell you, but you misunderstood that too.

Marx said he was a Christian when he was 16. At 16, you do a lot of stupid things; certainly, he didn't write the Manifesto at 16. Fallen, you won't reach any contact with me. If you want to hit, then hit. I don’t care about reason. Arrevuar.

"Because someone who implies that the difference between Catholicism and Christianity is nothing is clearly ignorant not only about Christianity but also about religion in general." Well, I never said the difference is nothing. I said, "so much so that in Catholic countries (don’t try to make the distinction between Catholics and Christians, that will make me laugh, I warn you)." Since we were talking about Christianity, then we move on to Catholicism, you have little to hold onto, that's where you clung, the distinction... so it is. I told you this to say that there is a distinction, it’s useless to talk about the color of the sky. Italian is a beautiful language, if only less time were spent in the gym, damn death. That said, you fall into personal attacks and you’re doing well. It’s the only thing you have left after having made a fool of yourself. Now, since with "if you really want to see how much a man is worth, beyond his words, his culture, his doctrine, you must strip him and beat him" you have revealed how disgusting you are, I will treat you as such. That’s why I’ll stop here. I made you look like the poor guy, then you made a fool of yourself with your little fascist rant-ahoh-we-can't-hold-hands. Mission accomplished, now I have things to do. Bye, poor thing.

"If you really want to see how much a man is worth, beyond his words, his culture, his doctrine, you must strip him and beat him." See? When I told you that you are a stereotype, lost in gyms and fascist-like behavior, was I not right? With these people, you can talk as equals. As far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't even beat that dog of my neighbor. Now I have to decide whether I'm a Marxist or a Christian.

"I'm laughing at the distinction between Marxism and communism." But what does that have to do with anything? You don't understand the difference because you're ignorant. There's nothing to laugh about; you should be crying. But let's start from the beginning. "Communism is, in my personal definition, insane Christianity," you said, mistakenly because you meant to say "Marxism," okay, forgiven. But have you ever thought that Marx was, publicly, Jewish, and therefore how could he have a glimpse of Christianity within himself if he perceives Christianity as nonsense? Do you know what the title of Marx's first written work is? Guess? I'll tell you: Oulanem. A little excerpt? Here it is: "Up high I will build my throne, Cold and terrible will be its peak. Superstitious terror will be its bulwark, Its minister, the darkest anguish. Whoever looks at it with a sound eye. Will turn pale and mute as dead, seized by the force of blind and trembling death. May good fortune dig his grave." Another one? Okay: "I desire to take revenge against that One who reigns up there." But do you know how many studies are ongoing to certify the fact that Marx, besides being a Freemason, was also a Satanist? Do you know how many studies of papers upon papers and how many hypotheses of "Marxism" ordered by Jewish hierarchies exist, which see Marx as the last piece of a machine aimed at frightening and disorganizing the world? Got it? I couldn't care less about your opinion; I’m just trying to make you understand that you're ignorant, and as such, you've said something dumb. Talk about gyms, and no one corrects you; you talk about things you don't know, and someone has to correct you. It’s for your own good. Now, you who preach humility, what would it take to say "You're right, I said something dumb, I made a fool of myself"? Be humble.