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"Well done and thanks for all the tips. I'll take them to heart. From now on, I will only listen to self-produced music, since it’s the only quality music." Well done, you got it.
"It’s one of the most interesting during this very lean period for Italian rock." That’s absolutely not true. Italian rock is absolutely thriving. The problem is that Canali's fans are simpletons; they only listen to what they can.
Zu records for Ipepac (the same label as Melvins, Unsane, and a ton of other people who have made history); on their album, Patton and King Buzzo feature, they tour the world, and play with Nomeansno, Dalek, and various others.
Teatro is cranking out great albums left and right; La Quiete, completely self-produced, in the old-school Black Flag style, did two American tours, one Australian, one Japanese, and everywhere there were people who appreciated and supported them. Then there’s the whole DIY post-hardcore scene that sells their records online, and there are so many interesting things that it would take a whole year just to point them out, but they print on vinyl—imagine if the average listener of any Canali ever thought about buying a turntable.
Italian rock has never been so healthy; it's just that you (and by you, I mean the simpletons) don’t know a damn thing or only perceive the mainstream part of the underground, that is, that failed underground which didn't want to be underground but was forced by events.
The "producer" makes money scamming or collaborating with shit bands (of course, there are exceptions). A serious band looks for a sound engineer, not a producer.

No, what persistence. I ignore certain people, but when I read that Canali is synonymous with "quality," I can't help but correct that nonsense (because it is nonsense). If Canali is synonymous with "quality" or "genuineness," then we might as well close up shop and go pick mushrooms... and that wouldn't be a bad idea. Anyway, the gentleman in question joined the CCCP when the CCCP wanted to make money (words of Ferretti), so that isn’t even a badge of genuineness. The same goes for Maroccolo, but Maroccolo, with a mixer, manages to create something good.

"Only self-produced bands are cool. Everyone else is just idiots making shitty music." Well done. We’re on the same page.
With Zu, though, you chose the wrong example. They had more exposure when they self-produced with Albini than now that Patton is funding them. Albini doesn’t give you any tips. He sets up the mics and starts reading the paper. STOP. If you call Albini a "producer," 1) you don’t understand a damn thing about what underground music is. 2) Albini will spit in your eye because he doesn’t produce; he records and gets offended if you assign him a silly profession. If I listen to 3 tracks from an album and all 3 of them suck, it’s definitely pointless for me to listen to the rest of the album because we’re not dealing with Shellac here.

Maybe you don't understand Italian very well, a difficult language for many. But the only axiom is this: "As a sound engineer, you’re worth shit (and that’s obvious and objective)" and anyone who has a minimum of an ear and a little familiarity with recording music can confirm it. If you want me to repeat a lot of "for me," consider it done. "All bands, except those formed by 15-year-olds, have a producer." You forgot to add "of shit" after the word band. Ask La Quiete, the only Italian band capable of touring the entire world (I think they only lack Africa), if they need a producer? Or if they need a label to invest some money. Anyway, the Shellac are worth nothing. They seem like Tre Allegri a bit less cheerful and silly... but the Shellac, bah... Amplifon?

So if I copy the math homework for the eightieth time, I'm a clone; but if I copy the Latin homework for the first time, I'm original? Come on, that doesn’t hold up. Let’s just say it: I like clones. There’s nothing wrong with that. Anyway, the world doesn’t have two albums inspired by the same aesthetic standards. The world has one album inspired by an aesthetic standard and another that copies the album that is inspired by those aesthetic standards.

He produced the first Verdena album, which is one of the worst-produced records in history. Only second to Requiem, by the same Verdena, who, like Canali, are a certainty. Anyway, here's the test: try asking Canali's current colleagues, those who still haul vans back and forth across Italy, what they think of Canali as a person and as a sound engineer. As a sound engineer, he's worthless (and that's obvious and objective); as a person, one-on-one, they'll all have good things to say. Especially, find out how Canali works, send him an email just for fun, ask for information, and his name on a record will become a guarantee of "product." Not music, "product." Listen to the three songs on MySpace: classic Canali band; after all, a band that needs a producer would be better off selling their gear to buy a nice set from Legea and organize a nice five-a-side football tournament with friends every Thursday night.

Ah, now that I've read that Canali is involved, I have a great reason to snub them.

Okay, let’s search. And I thought that Plan 9 was just the label for the Misfits... another bunch of people obsessed with Ed Wood.

Emphasizing that I have neither particular respect nor particular love for Pixies - while obviously acknowledging their talent - I say that this, to me, doesn't mean a damn thing.

But of course. I said it before. A single person can be Christian or Catholic (I don't know each Polish person individually), but a multitude, by its very semantics, can only be Catholic.