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fragments taken from that book you define as denialist, contradicting my "at times," yet you haven't bothered to read it. It’s not twelve thousand pages, and reading it, just to know something more, doesn't hurt anyone. Not even you.

"The real motivation behind the Nuremberg Trials was denounced by American judge Wenersturm, president of one of the Nuremberg Courts. He was so disgusted by the procedures of those trials that he resigned from his position and returned to America. He released a statement to the Chicago Tribune in which he outlined, point by point, his objections to this trial (cf. Mark Lautern, Das Letzte Wort über Nürnberg, p. 56). Here are the points from 3 to 8 of that statement:
3) The members of the Public Prosecutor's Office, rather than trying to formulate and achieve a new normative legal system, are guided solely by their personal gain and feelings of revenge.
4) The prosecution makes every effort to make it impossible for the defense to prepare the case and obtain the necessary exculpatory evidence.
5) The prosecution, led by Gen. Taylor, has done everything possible to prevent the court from deciding to ask Washington to provide additional documents in the possession of the American government.
6) 90% of the members of the Nuremberg Tribunal were biased individuals who, for political or racial reasons, supported the prosecution.
7) The prosecution was well aware of why all positions in the administration of the military tribunal were filled with "Americans" who had recently become naturalized citizens, and who, in the course of their duties or through their translations, created a hostile atmosphere around the defendants.
8) The real objective of the Nuremberg Trials was to show the Germans the crimes of their leaders; and this was also the intention with which the trials were prepared. Had I known seven months prior what would happen in Nuremberg, I would have never gone there."

"As far as we know, the first accusations of genocide against the Germans were made by the Polish Jew Rafael Lemkin in his book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe, published in New York in 1943. Coincidentally, Rafael Lemkin was later tasked with drafting the so-called UN convention on genocide, which aims to declare "racism" illegal. His book argues that the Nazis would have eliminated millions of Jews, perhaps as many as six million. Such news, revealed in 1943, is indeed remarkable, given that it is claimed this extermination effort began in the summer of 1942."

"The World Almanac of 1938 states a total of Jews worldwide of 16,588,259. But after the war, the New York Times on February 25, 1948, wrote that the number of Jews in the world should be assessed at a figure ranging from a minimum of 15,600,000 to a maximum of 18,700,000."

"First of all, the number of 6,000,000 cannot stand, only if one considers the number of the Jewish population in Europe. According to the Chambers Encyclopedia, the Jews living in Europe before the war were 6,500,000. This means that they would all have been killed. But the neutral Swiss newspaper Baseler Nachrichten, which uses statistical material from Jewish sources, clearly states that between 1933 and 1945, 1,500,000 Jews had emigrated to England, Sweden, Spain, Portugal, Australia, China, India, Palestine, and the USA. This figure is confirmed by the Jewish journalist Bruno Blau in the New York Jewish newspaper Aufbau (August 13, 1945). Of these emigrants, about 400,000 came from Germany before September 1939, as confirmed by the World Jewish Congress organ, Unity in Dispersion (p. 377), which states that "most German Jews managed to leave Germany before the war broke out." Therefore, the extent of Jewish emigration to the Soviet Union reduces the number of Jews in the countries under German control to about 3,500,000-3,450,000. It is also necessary to subtract the number of Jews who, living in neutral or allied European nations, were not exposed to the consequences of the war. According to the World Almanac of 1942 (p. 594), the number of Jews in Gibraltar, England, Portugal, Sweden, Switzerland, Ireland, and Turkey amounted to 413,128. In any case, the Jews under Nazi domination did not reach 2,000,000. Evacuations from Scandinavian countries were limited, and there were none from Bulgaria at all. If we also add the Jewish population in the Netherlands (140,000), Belgium (40,000), Italy (50,000), Yugoslavia (55,000), Hungary (386,000), and Romania (725,000), we reach a total figure that does not exceed 3,000,000 by much. This excess arises from the fact that the last data are from before the war and do not take into account emigration."

"Twelve thousand pages that constitute irrefutable evidence, as they represent the summary of the thought and implementation of the extermination project," and yes, twelve thousand pages of irrefutable evidence and absolute value, even when it discusses Hitler's Jewish ancestry. I imagine that you, who have read all twelve thousand pages of irrefutable evidence, must have also found the list of all 6 million dead, complete with photos, birth and death certificates.

The American senator Joseph McCarthy, in a statement to the American press on May 20, 1949, drew attention to some cases of torture. He confirmed that in the prisons of Schwabisch-Hall, officers of the SS-Leibstandarte A. Hitler were beaten to a pulp; once on the ground and unable to react, their genitals were mutilated. This was similar to the infamous Malmedy trial where simple soldiers were hung from the ceiling and then beaten until they signed the “confessions” that were demanded of them. Based on such “confessions,” like those of SS General Sepp Dietrich and Joachim Peiper, the Leibstandarte was classified as a "criminal organization." SS General Oswald Pohl, responsible for the economic administration of the concentration camp system, was smeared with excrement and then beaten until he acknowledged his “guilt.” Regarding these cases, Senator McCarthy communicated to the press: "I have listened to witnesses; I have read testimonies that prove the accused were beaten, mistreated, and subjected to physical tortures that only sick minds could have devised. They were subjected to pseudo-courts and mock executions. They were told that their families had been denied their ration cards. All these terrible things happened with the approval of the Prosecutor, with the sole purpose of creating the psychological atmosphere suitable for extorting the necessary confessions."
Van Roden stated clearly as well: "The 'confessions,' presented as evidence against them, were extorted from men who had lived for 3, 4, or 5 months in segregation and darkness... The interrogators covered the defendants' heads with black bags and then struck them in the face with brass bars, trampled them, beat them with clubs... Of all the 139 Germans put on trial, except for two, the testicles had been so severely beaten that they could not be healed. This was the normal treatment used by our American interrogators."
taken from that book there. McCarthy, not the pizza guy on the corner ;) ah, I misremembered about two prisoners ("Of all the 139 Germans put on trial, except for two"), my memory sometimes betrays me.

Listen, I’d like to recommend this book by Harwood, who is a history professor at the University of London. The title says it all: "Did Six Million Really Die?" At times it takes a denialist turn and becomes quite delirious, but the numbers, statistics, and documents are frightening in how eloquent and well-presented they are. It's a sequence of data that you can't refute, especially since there’s no evidence that six million died, while there are hundreds of documents that show many fewer died. At this link (it's an antisemitic and denialist publisher… brrr) you can read it online: link rotto It’s not very long, so your eyes won’t suffer too much. Have a good evening.

"What sends chills down my spine, beyond the numbers, is the idea of marginalizing and eliminating certain people for belonging to a supposed 'enemy race'! I agree 100%. Setting aside the nonsense of racism itself, I've always found the extreme right's claim regarding what the 'final solution' really was amusing. Exiling is certainly no better than exterminating, yet many seem unwilling to understand that. 'It's the case of Reynard Heydrich,' I knew that too. The point is that for Nazism, Jews were political enemies, not a race. They relied on the concept of race to lump everyone together, to make it understandable even to the simple-minded populace. 'However, to assert that the "final solution" was exclusively a "territorial" solution (as I've read in a book by Mattongo) seems to me a rather difficult thesis.' Look, I'm not asserting anything. I'm just referring to the few documents that exist. There is a mountain of documents that claim it was a territorial solution and none that assert the final solution was what history books teach. Now, one might hypothesize that those missing documents were destroyed, and that's possible, but is it possible that not even one was saved? I don't think so. It's a matter of statistics. 'Many hypotheses have been put forward regarding the numbers.' Many hypotheses have not been advanced regarding the numbers. The only official hypothesis is that of 6 million, which is pure, pure, pure, pure, pure fantasy. The number of 6 million came to prominence because it was published in an American newspaper as early as '42, and then during the Nuremberg trials (based on coerced testimonies, mind you, considering that 139 of the executed died without testicles as they were crushed in prison as a torture instrument) they always referred back to these 6 million. In truth, the number killed was likely not even a million. Of course, it's still something insane, absurd, and repugnant, but between a million and 6 million there lies the entire Campania region, that is to say, all the Jewish propaganda."

I remember seeing them around the summer of 2002, and they dedicated a rather bad song, Senza Vento or something like that, to Layne Stanley along with a line like "we owe him a lot," which sealed the usual turning in the grave. I also remember it being one of the most pointless concerts of my life, ridiculous musicians, that eager but hopeless dude who basically can only tune the guitar, and singers who were barely on pitch. I also recall that the next day there were the One Dimensional Man, and it was a relief.