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DeAge™ : 6718 days • Here since 17 january 2008
MoRkObOt MoRtO
MoRkObOt MoRtO
4 feb 09
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PS: Regarding the previous discussion, I won't go back to saying that Ufomammut and Lent0 are just "drone," but they do have their component.
MoRkObOt MoRtO
MoRkObOt MoRtO
4 feb 09
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Here comes the idiot who sees clashes everywhere. Anyway, Caz, the matter for me is this. What Ufomammut or Lent0 do is not just doom (they're not Wizards!), it's ultra-doom. There are hyper-slow passages and I, without ever reading definitions or anything, have always understood drone as exaggerated doom, very much so. My review, your opinion. They are irreconcilable. The technical data is mine and only mine, and I put it in the review which is mine and only mine. I repeat, drone, without reading any definitions, but based on my listening experiences, I've always understood it this way, so this thing, although wrong, ended up in a review by a reviewer (me) who relies more on objective data for comparisons based on personal experience given by listening. That's it. You are absolutely right about everything, but my stance is neither a fault nor caused by misinformation (because, believe me, to make comparisons and write reviews, I always rely on material data, on listening to the records, I don't write randomly.. and of course!). Bye.
MoRkObOt MoRtO
MoRkObOt MoRtO
3 feb 09
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Removed the synth, which I’ve already admitted I’ve gone off the rails with, I don’t see how you (or Wikipedia) can give a precise definition of Drone, when it’s not music but a series of mental states, the most abstract thing in this world. For me, Drone can even be a sampling of a fart repeated endlessly. In some passages of this "MoRtO" there are moments where there are only echoes or tones that repeat in a hypnotic way, ergo, according to my definition of Drone, even the Morkobot are "a bit" Drone, they are not Earth, but they aren’t a little Drone either, that’s all. I don’t want to give the writing an objective value; I couldn’t care less, and that’s why I couldn’t care less about the ratings either. Subjective review (I don’t view music through definitions; to me, a burp or a fart is more Rock than, I don’t know, Axl Rose) --> I’m writing down my, and only my, opinions --> you think (and you are free to do so, as it should be) that they are nonsense --> you give me a 1. The story ends here. I don’t want to persuade you nor do I want to be persuaded by you. They are two irreconcilable points of view, and I came here to lessen the boredom of my afternoons, not to create musical culture. In fact, you’ll also tell me why the hell I’m here, and you’d be right, but boredom kills, really. I greet you, have a good continuation. PS: Just to avoid being the one who retreats, you’re right both about the synths and about the drone on an objective level, but, to me, the objective level isn’t that fun, so since I wouldn’t know how to continue, let’s close it here. Bye :)
Bad Brains Bad Brains
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Then, the fact that it hadn't been reviewed yet was quite shameful. Gap filled, finally.
Bad Brains Bad Brains
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The album is almost a 5 just for "Big Takeover". Period.
MoRkObOt MoRtO
MoRkObOt MoRtO
2 feb 09
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For me, on the contrary, "Drone" is one of those words that can't mean shit, nor can it be a music genre with precise boundaries. Let me explain, but according to your reasoning, "drone" could also be the music of any ultra-minimalist ambient composer – or even neo-classical – who has fun with distortions and bass. "Drone" to me is everything except music; it can't be confined to a music genre, it's a state of mind, which is why if it grabs me, I really get into it; otherwise, I get bored (I prefer Earth to Sunn O))) for this reason, not for any other). What you mean ("a genre that started and ended with three albums") is drone-metal; the general concept of drone music ("drone" in Italian isn't just the "bordone," something I know, unfortunately, at least theoretically, since I had to study piano and music since I was little) has actually been around for quite some time (straight from the English Wikipedia, "Ethnic or spiritual music which contains drones and is rhythmically still or very slow, called 'drone music,' can be found in many parts of the world, including the Japanese gagaku classical tradition; Scottish pibroch piping; didgeridoo music in Australia; Hindustani classical music") and is not characterized by a single note obsessively repeated with the same rhythm. I acknowledge that I may have overstepped, but Ufomammut and Lent0 are "also," "a little bit" drone, come on, for the reasons stated above, I'm not backing down on this one.. // @Appe: so I guess you’re right. But I don't think they perform live exactly the same way as the studio version. I've heard synths, and apparently, I'm not the only one: just now before writing this comment, I checked out other reviews of "MoRtO" and those damn synthesizers have been noted by others too. It's not an excuse, but damn, those three idiots fooled everyone! :)
Sonic Youth Daydream Nation
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I don't understand why this isn't among the DeCasi :)
MoRkObOt MoRtO
MoRkObOt MoRtO
2 feb 09
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Fuck, and you give me 4? :D Just so you know, I do listen to something/someone from the Drone scene (I really like the Earth, while stuff like SunnO))) just makes me want to shit), so I didn’t think it was too crazy to say it: Ufomammut and Lent0 are more doom or whatever you want, but sometimes they remind me of the Earth for those super-slow, oppressive rhythms, so for me, they border - even just a little bit - on drone (which anyway isn’t a musical genre with precise boundaries). Talking about genres and sub-genres doesn't really matter to me, and I was just misled about the final delays because the album is full of synth lines, come on :))
MoRkObOt MoRtO
MoRkObOt MoRtO
1 feb 09
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Eh Appe, who the hell can know? These 'three here are unpredictable :))