Stoney

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Vasco Rossi Basta Poco
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I think I've already given my answer, but I'll repeat it anyway. It's a matter of image. By now, as I've already said, image counts for 99% (in the latest videos, they've managed to make even Pausini look decent, and make her sing with the kind of poses that scream "look at me," and that's not by chance). It’s necessary; it serves to cover up the musical crap that's being offered. However, since we're talking about music, that is, the art made with sounds, the image, at least for me, remains secondary. Otherwise, we're talking about spectacle, about theater, which are artistic forms that require the integration of music and visuals, but that's another topic. I don’t care if going to see Vasco, Ligabue, or Pausini is a nice show; I consider the music, and I say it’s crap. Unfortunately, when people know nothing about music, except for the usual four bullshit played on radio and TV, specifically chosen to keep the cultural level of average Italians low, this is the result. What Vasco and Pausini do is mere entertainment, with a business behind it that makes you lose your mind; they are puppets, flags in the wind, exploiting the trends of the moment, with the sole purpose of maximizing sales or concert attendance, hence profit. It’s all a complex marketing mechanism, just like the one used to sell a 600-euro cellphone or a 50-million-euro car. So I believe it's clear why these people have success; you don’t need to be a sociology graduate to understand that.
Vasco Rossi Basta Poco
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And who can tell you that I don’t hate Pausini too? Let's not even talk about Negramaro. All the artists you mentioned have an exaggerated success compared to the quality of their music, a sign that, as I said, the media machine that supports them counts a thousand times more than their talent. But Vasco is no exception; in fact, he is the king of smoke and mirrors... the fact that you're someone who isn't ignorant of rock (then you'll explain to me why grunge is a declining phenomenon) doesn't mean much. Maybe you know Led Zeppelin and you like Vasco for your personal taste, but let's be clear: Vasco's crowd isn't like that. It could be that there are music-savvy people who love Vasco for some personal reason or because they see something significant behind him, but that will be a ridiculous percentage compared to the general public. Vasco didn’t achieve success due to the validity of his music or because he culturally said something relevant... because the vast majority of his fans couldn’t care less about the “cultural” and musical aspects behind Vasco, and they admire the star, the "worldly man" attitude with which he presents himself, and the nonsense he spouts in his lyrics (which they perhaps don’t even understand, but that’s fine because they don’t know how to speak Italian either). You can see it because Vasco's leading hits are songs like Io No, Buoni o Cattivi, Stupido Hotel, Come Stai, or Rewind, which are in my opinion true lyrical and musical abortions. And yet, these are the chart-topping singles that have skyrocketed sales, and I remain convinced that to love certain songs enough to scream them at the top of your lungs in a stadium, you have to be passive subjects brainwashed by the obsession with which certain music is played on MTV. If the people following Vasco were only those who "criticize" and "distinguish," the stadiums would likely be half-empty.
Vasco Rossi Basta Poco
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@primiballi. I only said that if we think of Vasco as the one who voiced the youth's discomfort, or as the figure of the "young rebel," we are in a bad place. In the rest of the world, musical currents in this sense have been enormous. Just think that in the 80s heavy metal was booming everywhere, influencing the ENTIRE world except for Italy. That in ITALY Vasco was the first to capitalize on this image to break through is another matter. He did it, but within certain limits. The serious issue is that Vasco is often regarded as a rock or heavy metal musician, and just the thought of it terrifies me. I'm not a metal fanatic, but, for the sake of truth, things need to be said clearly. When I think of youth rebellion in the 80s, I think of the Metallica from Kill 'em All, not Vasco, and placing Metallica on the same level as Vasco just makes me laugh in frustration. What do I want to say? That what we take for gold here in Italy, when compared to what has happened in the rest of the world, is most often crap, only that it is sold to us as the non-plus-ultra and we buy it. It's the same thing that happens when they tell us that Mondo Marcio is a valid representative of Italian hip-hop or that Afterhours or Verdena do grunge. It's something I can't stand. Also, the fact are there are thousands of metal, hip-hop, grunge representatives, and more in Italy, all relegated to the underground, crushed by these simpletons who, more than musicians, seem like certified businessmen, whores of the music industry, with a keen nose for business and zero for music. It should also be noted that this situation is encouraged by the Italians themselves, who are an ignorant people when it comes to music, and I say this with great bitterness. They like the star, not the music. New bands struggle to make a name for themselves because it doesn't matter what kind of music they propose, nor if they are good musicians: people start to notice you only after you've been on MTV; before that, you're nobody. The Italian public's critical sense in music is absent: they don't judge a musician based on their musical skills, but only on their image and fame. If you've been on TV, it means you're good, even if your music actually sucks; otherwise, who the hell knows you?... Music is just a pretext to be in the spotlight, and it can't be any other way, because otherwise I can't explain the success of certain musical abominations that are currently popular. And Vasco, I'm sorry to say, embodies this logic 100%. Vasco represents the failure of rock in Italy. In another context, he would have been crushed by surely more valid artists; in Italy, however, a country where even "Led Zeppelin" is an unknown name to most, where Cobain is "the guy who got high and then shot himself," where people believe that "The Wall" by Pink Floyd talks about the Berlin Wall, where "Smoke On The Water" can't even be pronounced correctly, is liked because radio and TV said it is. He is a fake icon built on nothing, who appropriated a symbolism and a new language for Italy at the time and adapted it to the delicate ears of the average Italian used to decades of Sanremo. In short, to keep it brief, I'm just saying that Vasco can be innovative and original only for those who have never even heard of rock, that is, in Italy, millions of people. These things only make one seriously think about how we are still small, ignorant, and narrow-minded, and how the market logic here is, to the detriment of art, extremely more limiting than it is in other countries. I hope my thoughts are now clear.
Faith No More King For A Day, Fool For A Lifetime
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Damn... I always forget the grade...
Faith No More King For A Day, Fool For A Lifetime
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Finally, a serious review for an equally serious and exceptional band. This album (but let's say almost all the albums by FNM) is proof that rock has no expressive limits, and those who say otherwise, well, it seems they really don't understand rock at all.
Soundgarden Louder Than Love
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Oops. The vote.
Soundgarden Louder Than Love
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The good times, when rock was still serious.
Pearl Jam Live At The Gorge 05/06
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"I only remember 'Sometimes', 'Off He Goes', and 'Present Tense' :D they alone are worth almost the entire album. There's also 'Around The Bend', which I believe is the expressive peak of Pearl Jam in terms of simplicity and delicacy... wonderful. Listen to it because it's impossible to know Pearl Jam and not know No Code... :)"
Pearl Jam Live At The Gorge 05/06
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Holy Christ, what do you mean by "Vedder's solo album"? I didn’t know about that...
Vasco Rossi Basta Poco
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I agree 99% with what was said, very clearly, marpado. For the remaining 1%, I only object: the problem is that what you see as a quality, namely that Vasco has filled the niche of the spokesperson for youth discomfort in Italy, I see as a flaw. Unfortunately, we are in Italy and we have to make do with what we have. In the rest of the world in the '80s, heavy metal exploded, bringing forth the figure of the rebellious youth; in the '90s, grunge revived the fortunes of rock and told the whole world that young people were dying of depression and heroin, and unfortunately we got Vasco, the poor imitation of the real artists who were thriving elsewhere, just like it happened in the '60s when our singers copied Elvis and the Beatles.