Stoney

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DeAge™ : 6906 days • Here since 15 july 2007
Dream Theater Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory
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Orion, what are you saying that commercialization doesn’t exist in metal? In the rest of Europe and America, metal is an INSTITUTION; the worst power metal bands have come out of Germany, and in America, metal has been a billion-dollar business since the '80s. Are you kidding? The "commercial - non-commercial" discussion is almost more insidious than the "technical - non-technical" one, so let's drop it. I'll just point out that it’s not necessary to have a ringtone to make a song a commercial piece. Metal hasn’t faced a market crisis since it started existing; it is and remains one of the most listened to and sold genres in the world. And don’t come to me saying it’s because its listeners are passionate, because many (90% as you said, maybe) are just zealots lacking any musical foundation. Many make metal and being a metalhead a lifestyle and an attitude that has nothing to do with the music but concerns social relations and either going along with or against trends, and so we’re on a completely different ground. So let’s stop with this story of metal being superior. It’s not superior by any means; it’s popular music too. You don’t need to study or have a particular aptitude to listen to metal; many people listen to it, EVERYONE listens to it. It’s not like dodecaphonic or avant-garde music. Let me clarify this because it can easily be misunderstood: I DO NOT MEAN TO SAY THAT METAL IS ALL CRAP, but I'm just trying to put the sphere it’s often placed in into perspective.
Dream Theater Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory
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But dear Orion... it's not me making improbable technical comparisons, so don’t flip the script. It's the Dream Theater fans who emphasize just how monstrously perfect they are; believe me, I don’t care about technique. They are the ones who make absurd comparisons between Petrucci and everyone else to prove the absolute superiority of DT, and I simply responded that if it were just a matter of technique, then Laura Pausini's group should also be hailed. But no, because Pausini is pop, so it's crap, while DT can do whatever they want because they’re prog. You see... I believe, as I wrote in one of my latest posts, that people fundamentally follow DT for a reason that is far from "elevated" and "artistic," which is evident every time someone tries to prove that they are "better" than others and inevitably fails. The real reason they are liked is that they create a sort of "subservience" that stems from the belief that their superiority is unattainable, which the ignorant masses fall into (not in the sense that they’re idiots, but in the sense that they "don’t know"). That's why the discussions like "how dare you criticize DT, try doing what they do" are senseless and come from this mental position born of naivety and good-natured ignorance. Additionally, there’s another reason why people like DT: for the "excitement" they generate when they play, for the "coolness" of 6000 notes per second, for how "over the top" Portnoy is when he changes time 12,000 times per second, for how "badass" LaBrie is when hitting high notes, in short, for a series of INSTINCTIVE feelings that transcend everything else. I’m not saying it’s wrong; I’m saying that I can’t stand that DT fans can’t just admit this, but have to ascribe a sense of "higher" dignity to it. That’s the mystery explained; it’s all here, discussions mean nothing. Is the concept a bit clearer now?
Dream Theater Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory
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Furthermore, I take it upon myself to call whoever the hell I want a poor fool; it doesn't seem to me that there's anything written anywhere saying I must necessarily like the DTs, nor do they seem to be a sacred and untouchable religious subject like the Father Eternal or the Saints. Because this is the problem: when someone raises even a finger against these guys, the hordes of the Templars immediately spring into action, ready to defend the sacred banner. Don’t you realize that a comment like yours only confirms my analysis?
Dream Theater Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory
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Bennyrosso, it has been clarified multiple times in the comments to this review that the emotions of the individual listener cannot be taken into account because, at this point, EVERYONE would be great artists. There are people who get emotional with Eros Ramazzotti and Le Vibrazioni. Do you ever consider that the entertainment show (which is not exactly art...) is designed to create emotions? Does a soap opera perhaps not move those who watch it? Yet cinema is something completely different. So why bring up the emotions that hadn’t been touched on at all? Why take it personally? It seems to me that I, like easycure and others, have only spoken about music. Well, I don’t think it’s necessary to add anything further.
Dream Theater Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory
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...to the phenomenon of "veline", to the pale entertainment of prime time, to the stadium frenzy. You are not the only ones to idolize something that is the massification of the popular market of easy art where poorly made goods are sold at a low price, as the customer settles for less, and everything amplifies an already desolate landscape where culture blurs with provocation and art with sensationalism.
I hope I have been clear.
Dream Theater Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory
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Beyond everything that has been said, beyond all that has been written, I would like to add a personal observation, even though no one will probably care.
What makes art beautiful, ultimately, I believe, is the imperfection of the artist, the "human" touch behind an instrument. This recent trend of inhuman perfection brought to excess, represented here by the much-discussed five gentlemen known as Dream Theater, is in my opinion the beginning of the death of the artistic concept in music.
Not that I’m surprised. It has been a foretold death in many ways. Think of the great artistic works of all time, the ones you studied in school that have made history. None, I say, none of them exist for their own sake. No one will ever make you study something just because it is "beautiful" or because its creator was simply "talented." Behind every memorable work, there is always a context, a meaning, and an influence that endures over time. The stylistic exercise of the Divine Comedy would not even be mentioned if it did not convey a significance that has become fundamentally important over the centuries; the narrative technique of The Betrothed would not torment young high school students if it had not influenced the historical and cultural environment of its time. For the past 50 years, however, the trend seems to be diametrically opposed, and the "phenomenon" Dream Theater is just one example among many.
Those whom people continue to call "artists," "musicians," or worse, "absolute geniuses," are the perfect product of the consumerist subculture of the late century. What drives so many people to buy their records and attend their concerts is the illusion, typical of bourgeois non-culture, of feeling knowledgeable and experienced in something not because they studied it but because they purchased it. And so, attending a Dream Theater concert makes many feel "cultured," enjoying "true good music," when in reality they cannot even imagine what music has artistic value. To use a typical Roman expression, they are "contenti e coglionati."
And where does this illusion come from? Well, I have heard many arguments in favor of the validity of these five unfortunate souls, but no one has had the courage to state the only true one. In my opinion, the people who admire Dream Theater, the first time they heard them, were struck by one thing: the technique. The foolish sense of wonder that followed led many to believe they had found the best group in the world, and upon that position, everything else typical of their arguments has been built: celestial melodies, expression, depth, emotional transport... all pathetic attempts to shield themselves from criticisms. Unfortunately, no matter how many words can be spent, the fact remains that, ultimately, Dream Theater is liked because they sound "difficult," or purportedly so, and that’s enough for the average fan to be satisfied. The average fan says that DT can also be deep and emotional, but in reality, they don’t care as long as they receive their union-mandated dose of technique. Forget critical thinking; the truth is that, some more openly than others, people want one thing: to get pumped while they watch them on stage acting all flashy. It’s the same sensation sought by a spectator at a wrestling match, no more, no less, except that at least he doesn’t try to pass it off as art at all costs.
Beneath the success that DT has, there’s only this, so stop spouting nonsense about their preparation, about their expressiveness; don’t inflate stupid apologia based on utterly misleading arguments, and admit things as they really are. You are excused: many other things typical of today’s world operate this way. I think, for example, of particular adventure-sex-special effects films that hit the box office without needing to worry about having a story to tell; I think of the phenomenon of "veline," of the pale entertainment of prime time, of stadium fervor. You are not the only ones idolizing something th
Dream Theater Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory
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I had stopped at the old school plagiarism, specifically at Blackened's on Train Of Thought, which had me rolling with laughter, with all the fans raising their swords and saying "it's not true, it has nothing to do with it! You're just detractors!" Well, you are ridiculous, as always! Keep it up though, at least it’s entertaining.
Dream Theater Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory
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easycure... I was rereading your posts here and there. They are fantastic, truly; you give voice to everything I have always thought but never had the skills or the vocabulary to express. I have one piece of advice, though. Do you realize how low the average cultural level of the people who write on this site is for you to make the kind of speeches you do? I mean, I've read almost all your contributions, and I can tell that many people will have understood maybe 2% of what you've said. While your attempt to bring light to this valley of darkness is commendable, on the other hand, it's like trying to hold a philosophy lecture in front of a crowd of ultras at a stadium (because that's what DT fans are). I can't be that diplomatic, though. When faced with someone who tells me that DT are monsters of the instrument and that's enough to worship them, all I can think of are insults... you know that brief moment when you realize that the person talking to you is so light years behind that you would have to explain so many things (which they wouldn’t understand anyway) that the only weapon you have left is to resort to a curse?... Well, you don’t do that; instead, you respond with renewed vigor, and for this reason, you are becoming my idol, just so you know :D
Dream Theater Antagonistic Views
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Emanuele, don't worry. I was reflecting on how stupid the DT fans are who get pissed off if you don't give the highest ratings, because this says a lot about how overrated and unjustly idolized this band is by a shapeless mass of brain-dead people whose brains have been fried by virtuosic displays and odd time signatures. As far as I'm concerned, you could even give a rating that trends towards negative infinity; it wouldn't change anything for me.
Rihanna Good Girl Gone Bad
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The problem is that this girl, besides being a mediocre singer, isn't even that great looking; not even all the possible fantasies about how she'll use her umbrella can stir anything up, I'm sorry but this time the American porn-music industry has really missed the mark.