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This LP was given away alongside a copy of ciao 2001 (I think in the early '70s); despite the gift, they never managed to finish it. Today, someone reassesses it and compares it to Pepper or even superior.. we live in a strange era.

It is the dialectic of materialism, as Marx said (..without fear of being anachronistic) that will bring about changes, not our positions on social issues. We can have multiple viewpoints, admirable and expressed in the best of ways, but unfortunately, man follows materialistic logics solely linked to productive economy, since his survival is not based on words. Sweet talk is very different from actions. Sometimes I am amazed when I hear surrendering statements about the impossibility of improving the world, because human nature is flawed... but who expects anything from man? That is not the issue. Human nature does not offer us a value of behavioral positivity that is not the dominant model from which it draws its privileges. Humanity aligns itself with the productive processes offered by society in the same historical economic moment it is going through. Changes occur through the evolution of these productive phases. As far as I know, we could also disappear like the dinosaurs (for multiple environmental reasons, why not?) or have a long time left to evolve. Our relationship with the distribution of what we produce is indissoluble; if this is lacking, the glue of society loses strength, hence social friction and from that the spark that will bring about the change in economic relations. Certainly, we cannot expect that, suddenly, from our "divine descent" will arise the cure that will unite us in a chorus of cosmic brotherhood. One must take man for what he is: the product of what he produces.

Puntinicaz..@, the "bullshit is talking about people as if they had four wheels instead of legs.. you find it offensive to talk about lower classes and then you categorize us as cars? Where do you work, at ACI? Did you follow what was being discussed?

geenoo, I believe that the hidden powers (oil, tobacco, and communications industries, etc.) are not exactly a serious analysis. It's like saying, I believe in God—fine, believe it, but what is this, faith? Moreover, you are ambiguous; I can’t tell if you see it as hope or defeat. The holders of religions play a lot on the unpredictability of the future and death to lock up false theories in a steel barrel, beware. I believe instead, disregarding anachronism, that human history is not a still image in time, but a series of moving images, and we don’t know how long the film will last... nor how it will end. Certainly today, despite the crisis, there are no conditions for a radical change in economic relations as we understand them today; in fact, in the previous intervention, I didn't put in any dates… that would be pushing it. I agree that Berlusconi has the support of the lower classes; indeed, the dominant ideologies and political propaganda are directed at the people. When I mentioned revolutionary factions, I was talking about conscious people, who are always few... just as few are those who hold power.

geenoo, I believe that the hidden powers (oil, tobacco, and communications industries, etc.) are not exactly a serious analysis. It's like saying, I believe in God—fine, believe it, but what is this, faith? Moreover, you are ambiguous; I can’t tell if you see it as hope or defeat. The holders of religions play a lot on the unpredictability of the future and death to lock up false theories in a steel barrel, beware. I believe instead, disregarding anachronism, that human history is not a still image in time, but a series of moving images, and we don’t know how long the film will last... nor how it will end. Certainly today, despite the crisis, there are no conditions for a radical change in economic relations as we understand them today; in fact, in the previous intervention, I didn't put in any dates… that would be pushing it. I agree that Berlusconi has the support of the lower classes; indeed, the dominant ideologies and political propaganda are directed at the people. When I mentioned revolutionary factions, I was talking about conscious people, who are always few... just as few are those who hold power.

geenoo.."communist restoration" I don't even know who that is. However, I focus on the concept you expressed: "only those who have money command." Well, this is an evident fact... or what else? Is it part of the ideological series "let's resign ourselves"? Come on, isn't it better to understand how the system of those who have money is structured with a materialistic objectivity, to grasp its strengths and weaknesses? Another common saying from the same series is that there will always be a hidden power that commands us. So, not only are we experiencing a moment of galactic misfortune, but you predict that this misfortune will always be humanity's only companion. I don't know the future (you might be right), but don't tell me that you know it exactly? Surely one thing we can do is a serious analysis with the right tools; those are not lacking, and I go back to the scientific work of Carlo Marx... look at that. I am not a promoter of communism, or anything else for that matter, but I can assure you (without a crystal ball) that when the people suffer, revolutionary and determined fringes arise from the working classes... whether I want it or not. The spark of revolution, paradoxically, will be ignited, against its will, by the bourgeoisie, who, enjoying the riches accumulated on the backs of workers, will find themselves faced with a number that will make them weep more than they could ever dream of.

My reasoning GEENOO@ is a "simplistic" Marxist analysis (I say simplistic because I could never come close to the dialectical force of Marx); however, for the little I have delved into the immense and priceless work of Marx, I want to emphasize that it doesn't pay to lose oneself in the theatrical spectacle of "unofficial" politics—it leads nowhere but into the ultimate confusion. A massive amount of deviant ideologies is often disseminated as absolute truths. We should focus solely on class struggle and be able to distinguish the enemies; you only know the enemies after understanding who the "friends" truly are.

I have the impression that the right and the left need each other in the parliamentary theater. If hypothetically the center-left were to disappear (which is what the majority already fears), the center-right would lose its democratic facade; without an opposition, it would become a regime in all respects. Without a cardboard wall reading "make your choice," where would the imperialist bourgeoisie (in this case, Italian) hide its true face? The fairy tale of having the opportunity to choose the right candidate or the right political faction is a "myth" for us Italians, as well as the French, Germans... or Americans with Obama... in reality, we choose nothing at all. In totalitarian regimes, the enemy of the people is clear and visible, hateful and arrogant; you know who it is. In Western countries, where the bourgeoisie needs a "democratic" shell, you hit your nose against a rubber wall. The concept of freedom that we know as authentic, under the big word "democracy," is just a lubricant to achieve better penetration over the people. From this perspective, even the elimination of a clown like Berlusconi would change very little. You would find a sense of glee in the opposition, that’s true, like when you beat the team you hate, but in reality, everything remains unchanged. The true enemy of humanity, I believe, is profit and the immense wealth that the bourgeoisie extract by squeezing millions of chickens, using the propaganda ideologies of demagogic democracies or in the form of totalitarian regimes.