@[lector] stimulating debate and exchanging viewpoints is a bit like the water of life for this site, so I’m glad my intervention pleased you.
Correctly, it’s not about nitpicking each other, but regarding the Russian socio-political landscape, it can’t be denied that practically none of the early Bolshevik or Soviet leaders were true proletarians; the most glaring exception was perhaps Khrushchev, who coincidentally did what he did during the XX Congress of the CPSU… But let’s leave these “details” aside…
I understand your argument, but I believe that the "measuring stick" (French Revolution – October Revolution) doesn't work very well, for the reasons already expressed; the point is that as revolutions, contexts, and consequences, they are two very different worlds. One gives rise to a Europe that is at least secularized (I know I’m oversimplifying), while the other produces a powerful absolutist elite and a continental power that is effectively imperialist.
Our world is not the best of possible worlds, and at the same time, it is: actually, such an evaluation, which sounds annoyingly moralistic, makes no sense. And to understand the good that any revolution has left behind, one must heal from the disease of ideologicalism; one must dismantle historiographical myths; in this specific case, one must thoroughly study the strategic framework of the two World Wars and the Cold War. How do you make a serious synthesis when in a Democratic Country there are politicians and intellectuals who still consider the Soviet Union as the savior of Europe, the partisan resistance as the definitive and irreplaceable moment of the fight against Nazifascism, invoke Ukraine in 2022 as the standard-bearer of freedom in the East, and think that Mussolini “also did some good things”?
Perhaps it’s just a matter of generational turnover: one day, ideologies and ideologicalism will die, and only facts, numbers, and names will remain. Or maybe not; perhaps this too, like Communism itself, is a utopia. We’ll see.
The stuff you label or conceptually associate with fascism is something that predates it on which fascism was grafted: corruption, mafia, oppression, exploitation, inequality, intimidation, violence, interests, lobbying, corporatism, the human society of the 20th century. Add in a realm of miserable provinciality, a long-frustrated and never-suppressed colonial ambition, the anger of having consumed mud and gas for 3 years without achieving practically anything, a fractious and quarrelsome opposition, and throw in the demands that originate FROM THE LEFT of a statesman more skillful than Hitler, and you’ll have your damn twenty years. Like Nazism, like Communism, Fascism doesn’t sprout from the ground and doesn’t regenerate like a liver lobe; you need at least, but I mean, at the very least, a World War (and what a World War it was…) to even think about how to put the people under pressure and start maneuvering your monster.
I live in prosperity because I live in and with what I’ve earned, for which I’ve bled blood and health, and I’ve personally had more problems and seen more filth in the so-called left-wing environments, I can assure you. And I’m not just talking about unions…
@[macaco], I spent a good part of my adolescence in the antifa & “antagonist” circles, if only because there was some seriously cool gisvalda around; they could easily be defined as infamous squadristi, but when I think of them sabotaging TAV construction sites or smashing urban furniture, I’m inclined to see them as a perverse manifestation of social parasitism, and calling them "fascists" is almost a compliment.