Sonic Youth: Sister
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Sonic Youth: Sister
21 aug 17
Sonic Youth: Daydream Nation
CD Audio I have it ★★★
Sonic Youth: Daydream Nation
21 aug 17
I love Evol and Sister, where experimentation and inspiration blend perfectly. Daydream Nation, on the other hand, is a cold album where experimentation gives way to a unique and flawless yet familiar technique, and the excess of awareness and control stifles inspiration.
  • madcat
    21 aug 17
    I would say absolutely not.
  • Johnny b.
    21 aug 17
    It's nice to have different opinions. But in this case, I find it hard to consider Daydream Nation a sufficient record. Then again, everyone has the right to rate it one star.
  • madcat
    21 aug 17
    It's true, Johnny, the point for me is precisely the definition: cold record (?) where experimentation gives way to a unique and perfect but well-known technique (?) and the excess of awareness and control stifle inspiration (?) who knows, but what does that mean?
  • Johnny b.
    21 aug 17
    Daydream Nation is the perfect continuation of the previous works. It's wrong to think that this album lacks experimentation. They have improved in songwriting and as musicians, with tracks that come closer to the traditional song form, making the album more accessible and digestible. Perhaps that's what Ymarchi didn't like.
  • madcat
    21 aug 17
    In reality, both Evol and Sister are albums with tracks in 'song form'; in fact, I’ll tell you that in these last ones, the long pieces with experimental instrumental digressions (like Total Trash or Trilogy) are missing. In my opinion, the most evident difference between Evol/Sister and Daydream Nation is exactly, as you say, the significantly improved songwriting, which in the previous ones, at times, left something to be desired (I’m thinking of some tracks from Sister, especially).
  • Johnny b.
    21 aug 17
    Well. But where is Ygmarcha? At least he explained the concept better.
  • ygmarchi2
    21 aug 17
    I tried to put into words what the records communicate to me when I listen to them. For example, in the Kingdom #19 by Evol, it’s a completely deconstructed piece, yet it pulsates with life, perhaps because it talks about death in a car accident. On the other hand, Daydream Nation always leaves me indifferent. Take Silver Rocket, for instance; it’s a piece in perfect punk style, yet it’s cold, and apparently Thurston was aware of it, given the silver adjective.
  • ygmarchi2
    21 aug 17
    Or Total Trash, even the title is self-reflective and oozes cerebral vibes, and the text follows the same line. If we then come to the music of the piece, the noise is completely betrayed by a metronomic execution and a structure stiffer than a pop song.
  • ygmarchi2
    22 aug 17
    The pieces I appreciate the most are Cross the Breeze, despite being weighed down by the overly insistent drums, Hey Joni, and especially Rain King, which find Lee Ranaldo exploring the contrast between a 'spoken' song and complex textures of timbre, harmony, and rhythm.
  • madcat
    22 aug 17
    I don't know, I would say as always that it’s a matter of taste, after all, even if I really can’t understand how you can appreciate (quite a lot, it seems to me) Evol/Sister and be indifferent to what is basically one of their undisputed peaks (in my opinion, their undisputed peak, but that's a matter of taste). I mean, if you like Sonic Youth, Daydream Nation cannot leave you indifferent; you might prefer other albums, certainly, no doubt about that, but it can't leave you indifferent, in my opinion.
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