EverardBereguad

I have to say, maybe "no reply at all" is my favorite song of the bunch... I can't stand, for instance, the title track.

No, I actually agree, but I don't understand which are the two pleasant tracks; to me, they all feel insubstantial. Ah, this album has two not bad outtakes. "Submarine" and "Naminamu."

Yes...pleasant, to be understood more than anything else as listenable. They would be "Keep It Dark" and "Man on the Corner." The latter I like even though it's the typical drag of Pippo Collins; I don't even know why myself.

The best of the worst.

Well Everard, this is from 1981 and in the end the whines on "Face Value" were definitely better than the ones here, like "Man on the Corner" which is actually the best of the worst on the album. I can't stand "Keep it Dark," though.

Vinyl that I still own (birthday gift!!). I was 21 and I was very harsh on them. That is, on this trio that was prostituting itself for the god of the pound. Dull record, insubstantial and therefore, for me, useless. They would do worse, though... to this day, I haven't changed my mind much. From then on, I started to steer clear of Collins, a pop singer and wasted talent.

"poppettaro" poppettaro with a fixation on soul and R&B, even if under his hand such influences became plastic. And, poppettaro, not until 1981.

Even when it comes to wasted talent, in short: between 1970 and 1980 he was the drummer for Genesis and Brand X, played on three albums by Brian Eno (Taking Tiger, Another Green World, Before and After Science), performed with John Cale, Peter Gabriel, Robert Fripp, played and sang for Hackett and Phillips and also with someone else, and from 1976 to 1980-82 he was also a good vocalist. He jumped between very different genres even concurrently (see Genesis-collaboration with Eno) and continuously. In short, I don't see the waste :D After that, he went downhill, but it happens to a lot of artists, unfortunately. Of course, he really went downhill...

Of course, the pre-Abacab Collins remains untouchable. Then, as a drummer, he’s not up for debate (like collaborations with Oldfield or Tears for Fears, for example). But the solo Collins (let’s let the first Face Value slide...) is unbearable. As Scaruffi would say: never was so much talent wasted...!

Here we are at remarkable levels. Great album.

"Without words by ranofornace"

My absolute favorite rock album :) The best of the best... I agree with you on Supper's ready. How can one overlook a masterpiece like this? 23 minutes of bliss. Foxtrot represents the peak of prog, the summit that no one else has ever reached, in my opinion. In the court of the Crimson King is a step lower.

For my tastes, I honestly prefer Genesis up to Selling England by the Pound; after that, the increasing "musical prolixity" makes them difficult for me to decode. The sound space filled with enriched and contrapuntal themes and motifs becomes almost unbearable for me, yet it’s still a great album.

forced to save just one Genesis album? Nursery Cryme! A synthesis of creativity, eclecticism, formal balance.

Forced to save only one Genesis album? All of them up to 1977, including Live and (especially) bootlegs.

I agree with you regarding the wrong political choice, but not on the final judgment. W&W is a great album for me, and the beauty of some tracks cannot be overshadowed by the little mishap of Your Own. Moreover, considering the year of its release and what was happening in the prog world, this album is one of the best things from the era of decadence. For me, it’s a 4.5 rounded up to 5, but I might be a bit biased.

I'll conclude what I wanted to say; there wasn't everything in the previous comment. I think a bit differently than you. The 3 is justified by other things as well. Banks sometimes goes a bit overboard; I don't think the lyrics of 'All in a Mouse's Night' would have made it in Gabriel's time, and personally, in the otherwise excellent 'One for the Vine', I hear a bit of craft. And then there's the flop 'Wot Gorilla?'.