I'm giving it to Silaslang for Christmas.
  • De...Marga...
    3 sep 14
    Buying it on eBay...
  • hjhhjij
    3 sep 14
    :D If I didn't already have it, I would do this beautiful thing you're suggesting ahahaha. Instead, I will gift him my copy.
  • De...Marga...
    3 sep 14
    Hahahahahahaha....If you also want my copy; I really don’t know why but a few years ago I bought it for just a few euros. I think I listened to it once, maybe.
  • hjhhjij
    3 sep 14
    Well, in my "Total Prog" phase I liked it, but it was one of the first that I reassessed downward. I enjoy their other albums, I like the first one quite a bit too, even if they will never be among my favorites. However, I understand that they can completely suck.
  • ziltoid
    4 sep 14
    If you want, I'll give you the eponymous one! I don't know, the more I listen to it, the more it sucks (and it's the only one of theirs that could get past my ears without coming out the other end).
  • hjhhjij
    4 sep 14
    That, on the other hand, is a bit of a masterpiece for me, but I already have it so I have to decline the offer, thanks anyway :)
  • SilasLang
    4 sep 14
    HJ....I CURSE YOU. Ahahahahah
  • hjhhjij
    5 sep 14
    : D
  • hackerhacked
    5 sep 14
    But I remember there was, shortly after the beginning of the suite and towards the middle of the record, a truly captivating keyboard solo/fugue by Emerson, which definitely wasn't in Mussorgsky's.
  • hackerhacked
    5 sep 14
    "disco" ....
  • tonysoprano
    4 sep 16
    But is it really that bad?
  • hjhhjij
    4 sep 16
    The only work from their golden era that I find irritating and that puts me on the same level as their detractors :-)
  • tonysoprano
    4 sep 16
    ... when I've listened to it, you'll see what I think...
This album stands on three things: H.R. Giger's artwork, Lake's stunning song "Still...You Turn Me On," which is just fucking beautiful—why don’t they let him do everything? And finally, "Karn Evil 9," which is the ultimate Carnival of excess from the trio, particularly Emerson. And if there must be excess, let it be a grand, theatrical, engaging, and infinite spectacle ("To the Show That..." eh, not just for show). The Lake/Sinfield duo resurfaces for the lyrics, and I get emotional just reading the credits. Oh, I love it. Even more live. Then, well, "Jerusalem," thanks to Lake's voice, has never bothered me. "Toccata," on the other hand, is when they want to show off with someone else's stuff and end up being comical. From minute 5 to minute 6, guys, go listen to it—it’s Super Mario, killing mushrooms and jumping to grab stars, I swear. AVANT-GARDE.
  • The plump Greg Lake released very few acoustic gems, one per album, but all sublime. The quartet "Lucky Man"-"The Sage"-"From the Beginning"-"Still... You Turn Me On" is unbeatable; too bad he was so unprolific. His harmonious and rich voice (in his youth) is exemplary. When I listen to "Take a Pebble" and the phrase "Disturbing the Waters..." hits the vocal doubling, I still shudder and delight as I did the first time. Unforgettable.
  • hjhhjij
    30 nov 17
    In the trio, he was probably not very prolific because Emerson took up all the space, or in any case, there certainly wasn’t much room for Lake’s acoustic/electro-acoustic ballads.
  • hjhhjij
    30 nov 17
    I add "Alas."
  • Well, he could have focused on "solo" records, he wouldn't have lacked contractual and organizational support. Biographies also narrate that Lake's personality (not coincidentally the producer of E.L.P., in addition to being the singer, bassist, and co-writer) was even stronger than Emerson's. No, my idea is that the good Lake spent much of his time with the chicks, indulgences, and generally fully enjoying his status as a rich superstar, rather than working hard on compositions and artistic inspiration. Moreover, he was unable to cultivate and preserve his unmatched voice, already compromised in the eighties and completely deteriorated by the nineties (on "Black Moon" it seems he sounds like John Wetton's elderly cousin).

    The thing is that Emerson and Lake needed each other: the former had the spectacle, the virtuosity, the endless desire for showmanship, the energy of making music every day and all hours, but he was NOT a rock musician, let alone a pop musician; in short, he wasn't capable of crafting two verses and tying them together with a chorus and a bridge, in order to create popular music for the masses, for the boys, for the girls. The other one, however, could do that, and he even had the right voice for it, but he prioritized enjoying life over artistic drive, thus needing his partner to be part of a great and peculiar group riding high without too much effort.
  • hjhhjij
    30 nov 17
    Ah, look, on a solo career outside the band, I agree, and I’m sure you’re right about Lake’s personality. Also about the fact that the two complemented each other in some way. The fact remains that the musical composition ultimately always leaned more towards Emerson, perhaps also just because the main direction they decided to take was exactly that. As you say, Lake was also a producer, so I imagine it was a very deliberate choice. That way, he didn’t have to strain himself to write too many great songs for each album, eh eh.
  • hjhhjij
    30 nov 17
    "but he was NOT a rock musician, let alone a pop one." Sacred.
  • Emerson would produce little symphonies, fugues, pseudo-boleros, revivals of classical or jazz pages. Lake would arrive and add his melodic ideas, sticking them to Emerson’s frameworks in the case of the longer and more complex pieces (Tarkus, Pictures, The Endless Enigma, etc.) or fitting them in independently like little inlays in the album tracklists, allowing fans to catch their breath.
    Emerson played too much (and indeed, betrayed by the arthritis that ruined the ring and pinky fingers of his right hand, preventing him forever from making music at decent levels, he took his life).
    Lake played too little and died of poor health after a life of excesses.
  • hjhhjij
    30 nov 17
    Well, I have to tell you, it’s all undoubtedly true.
  • Littlelion
    30 nov 17
    My favorite of the trio!
  • hjhhjij
    30 nov 17
    Oh, it's a matter of taste. "Karn Evil 9" is definitely fascinating, for the concept, the very charismatic and engaging performance by Lake, the atmospheres, it’s all there. A really cool 1st Impression (the first two parts) and I still prefer the rest to the "Tarkus" suite. But that thing about Super Mario on "Toccata" is true, pay attention to it :D
  • hellraiser
    30 nov 17
    I'm sorry, but I can't access external content such as YouTube links. If you provide the text you'd like translated, I'd be happy to help!
  • hjhhjij
    30 nov 17
    Ahahahhha can you hear it? Tell me no ahahhaha
  • hellraiser
    1 dec 17
    I haven't listened to it in ages, it feels like the background music of the infernal castle at the end of the world, where Browser is waiting for him, throwing flames at him ;^))
  • hjhhjij
    1 dec 17
    Exactly ahahahahahah. Keith, avant-garde genius of the video game.
  • Flame
    1 dec 17
    These guys have always inflated my gonads beyond measure. I can't even stand Lake when he does his things. Tastes. However, he has an amazing voice; if I were given the power to change just one thing in the history of music, I would want him nailed to the King for life.
  • Flame
    1 dec 17
    ... gave and gave go to war, die ... I never remember how it ends.
  • hjhhjij
    1 dec 17
    Of course, tastes vary. I myself only keep a few of their songs and tend to listen to them rarely anyway.
  • hellraiser
    1 dec 17
    I have always compared ELPs to my mother's Christmas dinners. Everything is excellent, delicious, perfectly prepared. But TOO MUCH... by the end of the meal, you can't get up from the table and you have agnolotti coming out of your ears. Everything is good but exaggerated.
  • hjhhjij
    1 dec 17
    The only difference with my idea is that sometimes a dish is either overcooked or undercooked. In short, there are a few flaws.
In the studio, for me this debut remains the trio's best work. Fresher compared to what will come later, with the Isle of Wight performance just a few months prior still presenting them as a rock band; different in proposing the language of "rock", but still a rock band. The rock power also emerges here, fortunately concise in 5 minutes, in the splendid "Knife-Edge," which, moving between Janacek and Bach, gives us a fiery and beautiful performance from the trio. The other two masterpieces of the album are original tracks, and, coincidentally, both bear the signature of Lake. The rest (like especially "The Three Fates") instead confirms my scarce feeling with Keith Emerson in the role of composer.
For me, the peak of the trio lies in their live performances and albums, where, in my view, the excesses, virtuosity, and exaggerations of the supergroup find their greatest meaning, and where it can be exhilarating to listen to/see Emerson ravish his keyboards in an orgy of mystical/luciferian/fiendish ecstasy. So "Welcome Back..." along with a couple of their other live performances is what I appreciate most about ELP. The apex, even conceptually, of the live show is of course the sprawling version of "Karn Evil 9" (35 minutes), a bacchanalian circus of excesses and a symbol of the Emerson/keyboard instruments symbiosis. However, for me, even in this live performance, the most thrilling moment is when Lake takes the stage. The highlight of the album is indeed the medley of songs entirely composed by Lake: "Take a Pebble/Still... You Turn Me On/Lucky Man," all performed in a completely acoustic version. Lake is spine-chilling.
Enya: The Celts
CD Audio I have it ★★★
Somewhat boring at times, but nonetheless very pleasant. 3.5