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  j&r

  13 feb 13

  Mahler's Symphony No. 4 is stunning… especially the last movement, which I really enjoy… however, I ask you with sincere curiosity, to understand your choice, why the 4th, and not the 9th, or the 5th (with the beautiful adagietto) or the gigantic and choral 8th… I ask you this because, deep down, for me too the 4th is his best… but critics, the 4th, is the only symphony of Mahler that is somewhat snubbed with a certain disdain…

   

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    urlicht

    13 feb 13

    this comment was meant to go below but I'm putting it above. The ninth is a transcendent experience, but the sixth is wonderful as well (the adagio section is tear-jerking, the lied von die erde is colossal).
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    j&r

    13 feb 13

    Yes, that's true, the sixth so-called "tragic" symphony is indeed intense... I really love the VII as well, with those lunar, nocturnal, and twilight atmospheres that evoke, thanks to a music with a chromatic melody, the best moments of Wagner's Tristan und Isolde or Dvořák's Rusalka... Moreover, in the last movement, there is also a splendid tribute to our Giuseppe Verdi, quoting the famous theme from La Traviata "Amami Alfredo"... and yet the seventh is also somewhat overlooked by critics... and let’s not forget Symphony No. 1 "The Titan" with that fantastic adagio based on "Fra Martino Campanaro"... only an absolute genius could have reworked a piece like that in such a way...
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    j&r

    13 feb 13

    I really like the seventh as well, also because often the atmospheres, in addition to being nocturnal and lunar, are also spectral... it's a wicked nature that of Mahler and his seventh symphony... for me, a MASTERPIECE.
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  urlicht

  13 feb 13

  Hi, geiendar, what a lovely question of yours... I'm more attached and participate more emotionally (in the sense that I tear my skin, I churn my guts, I cry, I laugh, I die and reborn and become god with every note of these compositions) especially with the first four, those lieder-like ones, specifically those of the wonderful horn of the child, second, third, fourth. I truly feel the fourth as my own, the infinitely sad sweetness of ruhevoll, and the marvelously beautiful final lieder when the child sings what there is to eat in paradise, it's a vision.

   

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  urlicht

  13 feb 13

  truly comforting, even though subtly fierce and grotesque, but it gives me a sense of infinite peace when, still with tear-filled eyes but with a smile, I listen to the last note on the harp, it seems to me. thank you for giving me the chance to talk about it.

   

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    j&r

    13 feb 13

    The final movement of the Fourth, as I mentioned before, is truly tear-jerking, heavenly... and it is also, for me, the Mahler symphony that resonates the most... perhaps because I've listened to it countless times, definitely more than the others by Mahler... personally, after the Fourth, I place the "9," and in third the "2."