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The musical degeneration also brought artists like Elvis Costello, David Sylvian, Joy Division, Bauhaus, Dire Straits (who released their self-titled debut in '78), and on the more electronic side, brought Ultravox, the very first Depeche, the very first Durans...
Then there was the NWOBHM that also stirred things up quite a bit...
Degeneration? Sti Cauzzzz!!!
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PS Excellent album from the new course of Camel, much more Fusion and less Prog. Musically superior to Rain Dances, but it doesn't have the same emotional impact...

It's yet another one of those albums to have that brought some international recognition to Italian music. It’s almost rhetorical to say: “ah, if Ruggero had been born in England or America...” Forget Kate Bush or Patti Smith.... I saw her live years ago in Piazza Duomo in Milan, and with her perfectly tuned high notes, she was about to make the Madonnina collapse... A power and a range rare in the Italian scene... Unfortunately, the MBs paid the price of incompetent critiques and of having been protagonists only between the late '70s and the early '80s, with critics who still had singer-songwriters ringing in their ears... A few cameos at Sanremo then did not help the image of a band that deserved so much more... Just like Elvis Costello has nothing in common with Billy Joel, it has nothing to do with the Italian pop that’s a total letdown.

The album that marked the birth of the '90s, which forged the sound of that decade. It legitimized Techno, remixing New Age from the previous decade, stripping it of the acoustic pomposity associated with various Vollenweider or Kitaro, still influenced by a certain progressive sound and the "cosmic couriers" of Germany.
With MCMXC, AMBIENT was born, of which various compilations like Buddha Bar and the like are descendants. A masterful recording, with a good and wise use of "samples," "loops," and the first digital machines. On vocals was Cretu's then-wife, Sandra, the star of '80s electropop hits. I would dare say it's the fulfillment of Mitteleuropean music...

First of all, and I’m tired of repeating it, Punk didn’t originate in England, in fact, the very word, PUNK, meaning "vagabond, bum, homeless, or even delinquent," is American slang that refers to a "lendenon" (as it’s said in Milan). Punk was born in the USA in the second half of the Sixties as a response to "beat" music (the famous British invasion, or Brit-pop) and specifically to that "degeneration" of Beat music called "mod," or of the Mods, that is, the English boys who got high on Who, Small Faces, Troggs, Zombies, and the like...
In America, the response was what came to be labeled as "garage rock," meaning the first Punk with bands like Standells, Chocolate Watchband, MC5, and trillions of others (compilations exist, for Christ’s sake, buy them, for Christ’s sake, and listen to them, for Christ’s sake!!!!). The genre then saw its definitive "internationalization" and consequent legitimization with a highly seminal group called STOOGES, who codified the genre, although the Velvet Underground and Lou Reed were already considered PUNK back in '67!!!! I mean, an average American asked about Lou and company in '68/'70 would have said: they are idiots, bums playing music for bum idiots, so they are PUNK, or Punk playing "Punk music," and that is PUNK!!!
I don’t want to get into the semantic discussion of what I just said and trust in the intelligence of the reader...
Everything that came after is CRAP... It’s Copycat, it’s a joke! It’s bullshit! Clear??? Sex Pistols? Ramones (Americans)? Dead Kennedys? CRAP!!!! Copies... I’m tired of saying it for God’s sake, my balls and fingertips are crumbling from so much writing.
Back to IT, giving a 3 to DG is like giving a 3 to the Beatles' Revolver... I mean, you have to be crazy.
I’ve listened to and still listen to a lot of electronic music, but every time the intro to "cose che pensano" starts, the hairs on my body stand up...
Also for the (sublime, stellar, unreachable by any other Italian songwriter) recording, mastering, digital mastering (it was '86) of it all....
I believe to this day it is a reference for how an album should be recorded...
Regarding artistic quality, a colleague of mine would say "the sounds that come out are mind-blowing..."
You have to sit down and understand them, not like Mr. De André, who you understand when you’re 13, but at 30 you no longer get it...
And just for the record, if you mention De André in France, they think he’s a Formula 1 driver...
Dylan??? Because he’s American, so cool, but musically he sucked, except for very few exceptions (from the '70s onward) and he had a more hoarse and out-of-tune voice than Battisti...
So SSHHHHHHHHHHH, silence!
I’ve spoken and I won’t accept any replies....
Even if you’re called Scaruffi....

I, on the other hand, am listening to "the best of Fogus" (with a remix/remaster of Jeeg Robot) and I’m enjoying it like a hedgehog!!! ^^

@SUPERSOUL

My dear, I have a musical knowledge that would take you three lifetimes to acquire… In my life, I can say that I've listened to everything, but when I say everything, I mean EVERYTHING. Right now, for example, I'm tired of pop-rock and I'm dedicating myself to Classical (my first love from childhood)... I listen to dozens and dozens of classical CDs every day, and even there I always discover something that slipped by me, something I didn't know... Because my thirst for knowledge is insatiable, and that's a flaw, because we know that knowledge belongs to the devil...
I've even retrieved some works for Theremin from the '50s played by a Dutch musician... Never listened to Dutch avant-garde music? It's delightful... The Theremin is sublime, perhaps the first "synth" in history...
I really give Scaruffi a run for his money...
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LARROK, Rock Bottom is one of the most overrated things in the history of music. Period. Overrated by a small circle of intellectuals, former companions, people like that... I just listened to it again yesterday... My goodness, alifib.... But for God's sake!!!!
Music is something else.... Gino Vannelli buries Wyatt, then covers him with dirt. And I only mentioned one...
Nick Drake is ignored by everyone... Yet he gives me a trillion more emotions compared to Wyatt.
I repeat: if you talk about music, technique, since you’re trying to give lessons, JAZZ is THE music of the twentieth century. And I know just as many people who hate it... But when I listen to Barber or Krall, not to mention more experimental artists, I am moved!
Is Rock Bottom experimental??? Then what is half of John Zorn's discography??
Tell me, have you ever listened to Zorn? Have you ever seen him live? And here we’re almost on the edge of the avant-garde....
Believe me, Rock Bottom is musically NOTHING special, absolutely NOTHING....
That you like it is totally fine by me, to each their own, but please let’s not pass off inexpressible masterpieces of music history works that are NOT, either in historical importance, cultural significance, or anything else....
Led Zeppelin 4 is leaps ahead in importance, Dark Side of the Moon by Floyd is the same, Phaedra by Tangerine Dream too, Hosianna Mantra by Popol Vuh likewise... Solid Air by Martyn as well (another that few have cared for/comprehended)... Then I could mention "Bitches Brew" by Miles Davis, another 2 or 3 albums by Davis, a couple from Coltrane, a couple from Hancock, Birds of Fire by the Mahavishnu Orchestra, and even Spectrum by Billy Cobham... This is Music... Like it or not...
For example: I have always absolutely disliked Elvis Presley, but I’m not so foolish as to downplay his importance due to a series of factors EVEN outside of music... The fact is that Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly were on another planet....
Do you understand?
Bye, and happy listening.

1965! Psychedelia in its infancy, intricate lyrics, a definitive break from "yè yè," Lennon starts to become increasingly significant. One of my favorite Beatles, even though I acknowledge they have produced better things. But without Rubber Soul, there wouldn't have been Revolver, Sgt. Pepper's, the White Album...
"A new beginning"...

The point is that if you are not musicians/music lovers, certain groups, soloists, or albums cannot be understood. I'll give you an example: if I play Gino Vannelli for someone who doesn't know a damn thing about music but still listens to it, what might they say? They might like it, calling it a nice Funky/Pop tune, or they might hate it because it's not "rock" enough for their tastes... Maybe a girl might appreciate our guy's physical presence and make out to one of his Ballads... But if you're a MUSICIAN, then you understand the incredible work behind it... That Brother to Brother or Nightwalker are NOT pop songs; they are fusion, jazz created by extraordinary musicians that you can only find in America... Then you start focusing on the breaks, on the bass/drum/guitar/vocal work... And you get lost... Just like when you listen to Donald Fagen...
The same goes for the Purple: Made in Japan is a virtuosic, technical display, and together with "Live at Leeds" by The Who and "Tokyo Tapes" by the Scorpions, it represents the sacred trinity of Live Rock... Nothing was ever the same after "Made in Japan." If some said that Hard Rock officially started in 1969 in Leeds with The Who, three years later the Purple codified it, and four years after that, the Scorpions emulated it... In what I believe remains "the Ultimate LIVE ACT" in the history of Rock... Pompous, ambitious, grandiloquent, but also rough, not like Yes, not like Genesis, who made you want to commit suicide during their live shows. Superior to Led Zeppelin, yes, I’m sorry, the DP could have stopped here and still would have entered history. Thanks also to their sound engineer Martin Birch, who ten years later would replicate the extraordinary sound engineering with another band: the "Iron Maiden" of "Maiden Japan." Cheers.