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Ah, but the New Order ones don't even include any unreleased tracks... boooh

Evidently, they release unreleased tracks under the same name both as Joy Division and as New Order, because I have a Substance by Joy Division of unreleased tracks from 77-80. Is there a kind of green n on the cover? It's quite a mystery. I mean, if it's as I say, they could have made the effort to change the album's name.

Substance is a collection of Joy Division singles, or have I messed up my brain?

Attention, let's not confuse ideological identification with the aesthetic ideal of Joy Division. The continuous references to the Third Reich are not a political message; they stem from Curtis's fascination with the aesthetics of the time, as well as his unhealthy attraction to pain. He identifies the Nazi period as one of decadence and abjection and takes what he needs, much like many wave artists (and I consider JD THE wave group). One should not take JD too seriously from a political/ideological standpoint; they are more like children dissecting a frog to see what's inside... The name of the band is emblematic: the Joy Division was the camp where officers went with Jewish prostitutes, a place of false and hypocritical happiness amidst horror, a contradiction in terms. Beautiful review.

Movement is splendid, no doubt about it ...

How is it possible that this review doesn't have even a single comment? Strange, because this is truly a masterpiece from the '90s.

Well, I’d go for it with a bottle of vodka in me. Even if later he talks to me about Celentano or whatever the hell he married, whatever. Getting with the Lecciso is rock.

Anyway, beauty is subjective; the only thing that can be discussed without getting in each other's way is how much an artist can be influential, original, how they can bring changes to the aesthetic concept of their time, how and to what extent they manage to represent their society. I, just to make a fool of myself, have always appreciated the Prodigy. I have always found in the horror-techno mix of their music a sort of Bauhaus of the 2000s, with all due proportions. Of course, I don’t have their entire discography, and I’m not crazy about them, but I didn’t dislike them, and their proposal was certainly out of the ordinary.

Did you know that while he was doing the megaconcert, they robbed his house? :D

Sure, sure, the price of the album. People keep coming in saying they bought it at full price, the record is still at full price after 11 years, but we keep hurting ourselves and stepping on each other's toes; by repeating it enough, it will become true. Or maybe you bought the record on Soulseek? And if this is a shot... allow me to smile :) You are simply trying to force people with different tastes into a single view that just happens to align with yours, of course keeping yourself out of the discussion and hiding behind words like "masterpiece" or "essential," without ever justifying them even a little. Such evident blindness, typical of a fan, shows a total lack of objectivity and judgment, and common sense should avoid entering discussions they can't hold up: the result is always the same, the fan stomping their feet shouting "shut up." Let's leave it here, okay? Also because I’m terrified to know the market logic that lowers the price of all albums after a certain time from release, but raises the price of the one and only Mellon Collie. Keep your essential albums (Joshua Tree and The Wall - thanks, thanks, thanks, I’m tearing up) and let’s abandon this pointless discussion; let’s enjoy Mellon Collie, the only "essential masterpiece" that hasn’t influenced a single artist in 11 years, and hasn’t added a single dotted note to Rock.