Mr_Iko

Come on guys, let’s show a bit of elegance... I mean, the reasoning that an entire genre is absolutely awful doesn’t hold up... I thought like that when I was 15! Come on, let’s be a bit more open-minded: we shouldn’t judge the music genre, which is nothing more than a classification as far as I’m concerned, but we should judge the artist’s work (or presumed work). I don’t listen to much metal, but how can you say that ALL of a genre is bad? If someone came up to me and said that all Free-jazz sucks because it's the result of a disorganized modal improvisation, I’d spit in their face! Come on, let’s get rid of these simplistic equations like Metal0merda etc... The only equation to keep in mind is Juve=merda, but that’s another story... :0)

I definitely didn't make the equation Sistine Chapel : Painting = OK Computer : Music; I brought up striking examples to clearly illustrate my point. But I see (and I regret it), I've failed, since once again the words I use are considered more important than the thought I intend to express.

Lambrusco all my life...

Rivo rules

Yes, I’m ridiculous, I know. Well, what can you do... you wouldn’t want to sour your liver, right? I write and speak English poorly, I even think it worse, for that matter. I’m very unacademic. On the other hand, I speak and think BeNiSSiMo in Italian. Signed, I hate those who evade the principle of personal responsibility by avoiding putting their name next to the expressed statement. P.S.: what the fuck u want from me? R U envious of me, little coward?

G, why do you easily lose those points?

I must, however, underscore how you have inevitably lost points in my personal scale of value. One day, when you manage to elude your personal judgment of your social attachments, you will understand how truthful my thoughts could be.

G, the beauty is that we are "all" the same, being "all" different... The day I should trust someone else's judgment without weighing the different judging metric value, like a fox in England caught by a fierce hound in a dark den hidden in the dark forest, I would find myself... Always eager for comparison, I find myself in every attempt to improve my cultivated baggage, I try. I cannot trust mere judgment as long as the vital forces accompany me. P.S. I'LL TELL YOU CLEARLY: YOU'RE THE ONE WHO'S HIGH!...

Music does not deserve to be instrumentalized by you as a means to assert yourself. It doesn’t deserve it. Having the ability to eclipse one's judgment in the face of monuments of contemporary culture (such as Ok Computer, as it seems to me...) is a trait that demonstrates broad-mindedness. Today, the nonconformity of your kind, manifested through the systematic rejection of what society deems valuable in favor of the mathematical exaltation of what the same society views unfavorably (an album by group X is bad because everyone listens to it...) justified with aseptic definitions born from the most sordid utilitarianism of Austin, is certainly the best lens through which to realize that mass information is not NECESSARILY wrong. The ability to decide for oneself is one of the fundamental needs of humankind. But hiding like a shadow behind a body exposed to the sun by using one's independence of thought while instrumentalizing nonconformity for the pursuit of personal prestige seems to me cowardly. And unfair to the people who take lessons from you. "...because worse than death is only the vile teacher whom you trust absolutely..."

I am not playing with words. I don’t want to weigh the efficiency and uniqueness of the nouns I use with a scale in this discussion. Since Rivo has the merit of seeking stylistically perfect definitions but the misleading entrepreneurship of standardizing their meaning through grammatical rigidity (a highly functional yet slimy capacity of 'Captatio Benevolentio' greatly illustrated by Cicero), I want to challenge him to shoulder-check what he (in a manner of "snob of free thought") stubbornly insists on calling "mainstream": do you really believe that anyone has the rational freedom to define Voltaire’s Candide as "ugly," or the Sistine Chapel as "superficial," or even the Beatles' White Album as "useless"? Would you be able to justify a sane person labeling Sgt. Pepper as "pathetic"? Could you bear someone who refuses to glorify the structural grandeur of Tommy by The Who? If you could remain perfectly indifferent to these "crimes against human reason," then you too would be a superfluous individual, useless to the enrichment of society. How can you remain indifferent in the face of this album? It’s one of two things: either chlorine runs through your veins or you do not care about music as a pursuit of pleasure while you care about music only to tell your friends: "I’m cool because by rejecting the music of the many and seeking that of the few, I elevate myself to nonconformist..."