brat12 Banned

I notice that, in general, among metalheads there is a strong resentment towards these groups that represent the more commercial side of metal. I haven't been a metalhead for a long time...

Yes, along with those of my girlfriend. What can you do...

@JDV: “<<<Sure, nothing to do with the other groups I mentioned, but still better than Madonna or Britney Spears, right?>>>” I certainly don’t think I said they are better than Britney. Or did I??? The producer of Spears must have been honestly pissed off when he first saw her shaved bald.

muffin how sensitive you are oh my goodness... menstruation?
wait, let me get one of the tampons that my girlfriend left behind with her bag the other day.

@LUKAPIZ: of course you're free to appreciate (you like everyone) whatever you want; tastes are tastes after all.
@COLORAS: should I explain why the power metal is SHIT FOR ME (you're right, it's always better to specify; I try to express my tastes and not an absolute truth)? Then: -repetitive (a bunch of groups all the same) - flashy and immature (the song structure: intro, verse, bridge, chorus, melodic verse, etc... has really bored me).
@PIXIES: exactly, the boom in '94 and from there until nu metal, the mainstream is punk.
Also, A) it sold well in its niche; during the Nightfall tour, I saw Blind Guardian at the Rainbow, if you're from Milan, you know what it was like; otherwise, just picture a record pub for 300/400 (maybe even less) people... (sardined). Last year, Nightwish played at Palalido, definitely a bigger place; I imagine this is possible thanks to the record sales data. So, power metal bands sell more now that they're being played in rotation on MTV (back in the '90s, a certain band, Manowar, didn't perform a concert without cursing MTV in front of their fans for not playing decent music).
B) Yes, let's say nu metal definitely had more success with bands like Limp Bizkit and SOAD... or should we say that in 2003, SOAD and Helloween were equally featured on the radio and in music media? If you tell me they were equally represented, then we can wrap it up here.
C) It could be; otherwise, I wouldn't explain phenomena like Lacuna Coil going around as headliners... and it's not just an economic problem but also a visibility issue.
D) Amen can be listened to by whoever wants to; from my point of view, if you usually listen to nu and then switch to Amen, you gain something. Don't you think? It's always about tastes...
Then, Amen travel through heavily trafficked roads... did you happen to read the word originality in the review? I'm saying they do punk mixed with metal; it doesn't seem like I said they invent something new.
@LUX: Results May Vary (2003) / Chocolate Starfish And The Hot Dog Flavored Water (2000) / Three Dollar Bill Yall$ (1997)... Sorry, but what period is the review talking about? Your comment above supports my thesis... And to wrap it up, I still prefer We Have Come For Your Parents over Three Dollar Bill Yall$.

Holy shit, I only now see that Pixies, Mihai mentioned the Rhapsody... What, did you spend the years as a butterfly hoarding power shit? :-)

Alright, but what do we have to talk about? Ascoli NU metal, it's obvious you don't agree with what's said here. Go read comment 12... anyway, yes, white pony is crap and this album the little horse gets fucked by the sand.

@LUX: I mean, sorry, but I think Limp Bizkit are one of the most obscene bands to have ever entered the metal scene... to each their own. (As for Blind Guardian, I only save Forgotten Tales and the three previous ones; I also don’t think I said they were serious bands, I said that in the power metal scene only those are worth saving... come on, what’s power... it’s MeDdAaL!!!... it's just as it is, we all know that.
@PIXIES: I’m sorry to remind you, but in the 90s metal was liked by a handful of people; the most popular music was the "punk" (in quotes) of NOFX and Green Day (it's unbelievable that you don't remember this and accuse me of historical errors if we really need to trip out over something...). Only 5 out of 100 people listened to Stratovarius and HammerFall (myself included, youthful mistakes).
Comparing and preferring them to Deftones means you’ve only listened to Deftones after Around the Fur... if you stopped at their second album... keep it up, you're saving yourself a lot of crap.
Metal is mainstream thanks to Limp Bizkit, today’s Nightwish, and today's In Flames;
to Cradle of Filth, who sold out, definitely not thanks to Stratovarius and HammerFall (I mean, okay, the worst music does become mainstream, but let’s not exaggerate...), as uncomfortable as it is, that’s a fact, and denying it means you’re blind to reality.
Anyway, I repeat, the concept expressed in comment 12 still stands... I know it would’ve annoyed someone.
@JURIX: Thanks.

The idea that all toners are the same is a notion to be taken with a grain of salt: ufomammut, toner low, 35007, wo fat are they really that similar? Whoever says yes has never heard them...

@jargo: yes, the credence are definitely better... but those are better than too many people to be taken as an example...